KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum I'm sorry to do this, but we have no chance of top 4!!!

Well, yeah it is i think. Because you don't just go from being as good as we were to as terrible as we were last night so quickly. We made some changes, we had a few bad games, but things will click for us soon again, and when they do, watch out premier league, we'll be knocking opponents about.

I think we were really shocking yesterday! Against Villa, i thought we were OK but lacked cutting edge. But trust me, very soon we are gonna win big, and when that happens, the team will gain a lot of confidence again and we will be back on track. Its early days yet boys.

Also, some need to look hard and realise, we actually made fantastic signings,you need to get off their backs a bit, added pressure from impatient fans is not helping the cause if getting them firing.

That's highly optimistic in my opinion.

I believe that the more likely short term explanation is that:

1. half the team is new. It takes time for players to understand each other and gel. Pre-season isn't enough - you need competetive games.

2. the other half of the team that isn't new is creaking: SG getting on; Migs not improving; Skrtle, Johnson, Flanno, Sturridge injuries.

In the medium term, say as after we pass 10 games, if the situation is still the same then we'll know that BR has messed up big time. His name could be on a par with Kenny (2011) & Commoli

He's got it wrong every week accept maybe Spurs though ninja. That team he put out with Lucas, Gerrard and Hendo all in it, what was the thinking? He's already said that Lucas isn't in his plans and Gerrard has been poor. We had Lalkana and Marko on the bench and should've started for me. I just hope that Sturridge coming back gets us out of the [oops]!

There is a third explanation there are not enough class players in that squad

If we're still in the [oops] after 10 games, he could also be out of a job. Not advocating it or saying I want it to happen but we should be much much better than we are.

The mistake I alwways make is to aim high and want the best for the club. Those days are over we are a second rate club and looks like that is for the long term. Do I think we will get a super stadium no ! do I want one I do. But as we all know it aint going to happen nor will winning the title or any major trohies save for the odd FA cup etc and qualifying for the champions league noe and again. The club is under invested and under funded thats the bottom line. What I can never grasp is how some Liverpool fans are happy with it maybe its stockholm syndrome.

No mistake in aiming high stan. Have to believe we can win things even if we can't or don't. I'm sure even the lesser teams have belief they can win things.

Yep. that's what i meant by the medium term. There should be no excuses after a reasonable settling in period. The conclusion then will be that we're not good enough because we got the wrong players.

In the long term nothing matters of course because we'll all be dead

We didn't buy any really good players. Not a single one. That's why we are already talking about January despite having spent well over 100 million. We bought average players.

But the next generation of Liverpool fans wont and my posts about the stadium are for them not me