KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum I'm sorry to do this, but we have no chance of top 4!!!

and some in here were saying we would win the league

some were having a go at me for saying we should be aiming for top 4

We just spent over 100 million, a large portion of it on attacking players. Yet probably the most optimistic fan here is talking about what forward we need to buy in January. That shows how f!cking disgraceful our purchases have been this summer.

I don't think that we spent too bad, we bought some really good players (even if we did over spend on a few of them), the problem for me is that we didn't get that out and out DM that we've been screaming out for. Our midfield is just not cutting it.

We need Allen, Hendo and Gerrard together because when Allen and Hendo play alongside Gerrard they cover him and allow him to move the ball around and Allen also allows Hendo to get around a bit more. But with Lucas, he's lost it which has been going on for a while now.

I think we should solely set out for one good DM in Jan. But if Isco is wanting a move, go for him too and make it a priority to find clubs for Lucas and Johnson.

i 100% agree about liverpool's midfield missing joe allen , he does loads of unseen work and keeps the ball moving which is not happening at this moment but did at spurs when he was playing .

You say that KP but how many are fit to replace him?

We are completely lost when we defend and this is not only now. BR showed that he knows attacking tactics or was it Suarez last season, I don't know, however, in terms of defending as a team BR has proved he is clueless. Yes, some like exciting football and want to buy other attackers, our problem is CONCEDING GOALS first and foremost.

Agree with a lot of that Sixty.

Things that I've been chewing over from last night though:

When we had no Suarez last season everyone was still on the same page and in unison- now it's like 11 headless chickens out there. It's easy to say we've been found wanting because he was in the team but that's BS. The team was solid enough from where we'd come from just missing him.

Rogers should have expected this amount of new faces to take an eternity to bed in. It happened it Spurs and through history it happens every time. You build by adding 1 or 2 maybe 3 at a push. It's either blind ignorance or arrogance on his part and that bit has been found out.

The lack of a step up to World Class additions blended with a Can also looks like being a major mistake. Mignolet is and never looks like being good enough and instead of getting a top goal keeper or clear the air with Reina, we left it too late and are waiting again to try and get a guy who was arguably top drawer on the cheap through injury when we need someone NOW.

I can't see Sturridge returning changing this round either if as with yesterday and Villa your strikers are getting virtually no balls played to them.


The Moneyball theme is prevalent through nearly every decision (it's clearer and clearer) and it is looking like not only failing but being a long long haul back into the light.

I'll leave it there as the list is endless and it's a massive downer from what we looked like shape wise last season compared to this garbage.

I said a few weeks ago we should be aiming for the title this season I now realise I was in cuckoo land

That's good progress Stan. A madman always denies he is mad. Acknowledging that you were in a deluded state shows signs of recovery Any fresh thoughts on a super dooper new stadium?

So none of you on here believe this could just be down to the fact we had a few bad days at the office and BR just got his tactics wrong? I mean, it is actually a more plausible explanation than anything else being offered up.