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 Good post. Yeah, its sad the way the game has gone and the amount of money the players are getting. I don't want LFC to be like city, i want us to achieve success the way we should, through hard work. 1 title won in 20 years through hard work and growing a young squad is worth more to me than 5 titles in 5 years if they are bought like Chelsea and city have done. This is why i have respect for United's titles and i still view them as our main rivals, because they won titles the right way under Ferguson, not like Chelsea or Real Madrid etc. You don't want us to be like city ? That's the point all the top clubs are like city only not as good. Liverpool FC is awash with TV cash and sponsorship as are all the other club. Do you think that money is given because they love LFC ? That BT sky and standard chartered are all long standing kopites ? The game us a money pit full of sharks and vipers at least with Chelsea and city the owners cared about the game and to an extent the club. All that matters in the game today is money as Manchester United are proving it's a race to the top or the bottom depending on how you look at it. As I said last week to run a top club you have to be either seriously wealthy, prepared to risk a lot and have powerful backers. Forget these romantic notions they went years ago and probably disappeared for good once the BT deal came.
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I don't care really, mainly because I'm realistic. Everything does seem to be ran better, more professional/organised if you like. Maybe they've managed my expectations, which wasn't hard after the previous owners.
Of course I'd love them to pump another 100m into players, but they're business men. Hicks and Gillet were too, but look how that turned out compared to last season.
I expect considering the increases in turnover recently there should be cash in the bank for more players in Jan. The net spend was 'ok' in the summer, but could have been higher. I suppose you could say they could only buy so many players to integrate after being resigned to losing Luis.
They're not perfect owners, but for business people they're doing pretty well. The Glaziers seem to have realised they need to speculate this summer and I'm confident FSG will invest more as it becomes clear how valuable success can be. Any gloating by manure fans ring hollow for me though, they've got the most expensive squad in history.
I guess this is why a lot of people have fallen out of love with the game. Ronaldo demanding £500k a week sums it up - do you really want your hard earned cash put toward a player like that?
Still, a new stadium would allow me to attend more games so forget all the above. A new stadium will have 60k seats only 2k more than redevelopment, so this will allow you to attend games as a new stadium. For the rest I agree.
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 Good post. Yeah, its sad the way the game has gone and the amount of money the players are getting. I don't want LFC to be like city, i want us to achieve success the way we should, through hard work. 1 title won in 20 years through hard work and growing a young squad is worth more to me than 5 titles in 5 years if they are bought like Chelsea and city have done. This is why i have respect for United's titles and i still view them as our main rivals, because they won titles the right way under Ferguson, not like Chelsea or Real Madrid etc. You don't want us to be like city ? That's the point all the top clubs are like city only not as good. Liverpool FC is awash with TV cash and sponsorship as are all the other club. Do you think that money is given because they love LFC ? That BT sky and standard chartered are all long standing kopites ? The game us a money pit full of sharks and vipers at least with Chelsea and city the owners cared about the game and to an extent the club. All that matters in the game today is money as Manchester United are proving it's a race to the top or the bottom depending on how you look at it. As I said last week to run a top club you have to be either seriously wealthy, prepared to risk a lot and have powerful backers. Forget these romantic notions they went years ago and probably disappeared for good once the BT deal came. Only crazy people risk a lot for returns nowhere near a lot.
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Vish has in the past mentioned demand curves this us where for a niche product supply is restricted such as the seller derives the optimum price. Pretty sure this is part of Henry's plans and assuming supply is restricted the redevelopment will forever keep prices very high. Whereas had we built a new stadium in the long term we could have extended to 90k keeping prices in the reach of mortals for future generations. This us how I think football will go once the never ending spiral of orice increases bursts clubs will attract volume again. Liverpool might carry on of course with maybe a upper maximum of 70k and if you never go to the ground this won't matter. But if you are wanting stadium extension to help you get to anfield the redevelopment will work against you. I have no personal axe to grind either way but future generations will be hammered.
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Crazy people or very very very rich people
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Crazy people or very very very rich people Very, very rich people throwing money away are what I call crazy, not you?
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Not really rich people waste money all the time. Let me tell you something about Liverpool vish. Underneath Liverpool are a series of huge underground tunnels under the city itself. They are a tourist attraction today they were built in the 1800's by a man called Williamson a very wealthy man. Why did he do it ? Because he could and because he wanted to. There are people like that in the world today probably many many more given the work is wealthier. We are stuck with Henry who will pursue his plan for his own ends but telling us there are no alternatives now THAT is crazy !!
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Not really rich people waste money all the time. Let me tell you something about Liverpool vish. Underneath Liverpool are a series of huge underground tunnels under the city itself. They are a tourist attraction today they were built in the 1800's by a man called Williamson a very wealthy man. Why did he do it ? Because he could and because he wanted to. There are people like that in the world today probably many many more given the work is wealthier. We are stuck with Henry who will pursue his plan for his own ends but telling us there are no alternatives now THAT is crazy !! Agree, there are some rich people who would spend on their passion, not sure if there is a very, very rich LFC around. Sheik Mohamed Al Makhtoum from Dubai I heard is a LFC fan, but Moores chased him away and he is a very proud person and probably not as rich as 10 years back. Have you heard of anybody else?
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Yes I have but I am not telling you who it is
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Yes I have but I am not telling you who it is I knew you were hiding something
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