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When I talk about spending money I don't just mean on players this is the whole point I am making and have always made

How much money does a stadium like old Trafford get through people visiting for a tour though? I mean people that aren't united fans, because I would imagine its very few. Barcelona is one of the best city's in the world and lots of people do visit the stadium because of the stadium but I wouldn't imagine it generates vast income.

On the point about sponsorship deals, I don't believe and never will believe that any club is sponsored beacuse of the stadium. It's all about the winning brand nothing else. The only time the stadium matters is when your talking naming rights.

It's over the long term and Liverpool is a pretty fantastic city and marko Liverpool have not done bad for success. People accuse me of not reading posts I assure you I read them all. Can I ask you read the original post on this thread and you too marko have a read, Long term not immediately expecting ticket prices alone to pay for it. That demands a long term view owners capable of putting significant equity into the club and being prepared to develop it.

I fail to see how we can match or better man united / Man City unless we have comparable or better facilities than them. I dont think thats an unreasonable assertion. The only way I can see we can do better is if we consistently (and by some way) better them on the field to such an extent the success overtakes the physical size of the club. But we will have to do this every year and for all time and with the handicap of lower transfer budgets. Forgive me but that seems a tall order to me. In which those who would want a reduced facility at Liverpool are accepting of the clubs reduced long term capability. And for what ? To protect an owner they have never met, never will meet and who probably sees them as no more than commodities to enrich himself. Maybe I am getting old because thats not football club support as I know it.

But the only reason you want the big stadium is so we can spend more on players. Which is something we have done more of than united during the whole premiere league history. The gap between a 70-80k stadium and a 60-70k stadium revenue wise is going to be very marginal in the future due to the growing influence of tv money and sponsors. The only time having a huge stadium will benefit a club is if things return to the days of old when 90% of a clubs revenue came through the turnstile.