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Vish I am not suggesting the benchmark is city but that Liverpool compete on an appropriate level to put the club at the top. I feel in saying this I am saying something bad. But you keep talking about City or United even when you don't go to their games/stadium. When you want something that we cannot afford, you are actually saying something bad because nobody should eat what they cannot digest. Yes we will probably not be the best team but your option is worse and can make us become another Leeds.
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Well even with all the dosh and 'wonderful' stadium at their disposal, they came perilously close to not winning the PL last season.
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Or is it perhaps just an example of how cheaply you can be bought? What a moronic comment !It seems on here to want a future for the club and the next generation is a bad thing and anyone who wants this is a pariah. Our club has to move with the times anyone with any sense can see that. The title is head in the sand some dont even achieve that. I put it across in a moronic manner so you could comprehend it. Excuse me, how does the fact that, as you claim, city paid you to go to the game, contribute towards Liverpool football club having a bigger stadium? Also, i was wondering, would like some cheese with your whine?
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Be careful what you wish for Stan. As an Englishman living in the USA I can tell you that I would weep if Liverpool adopted the 'American-style' approach to sports. There is something very plastic and sterile about going to sporting events here - everything is commercial and manufactured, even the atmosphere. I love coming home and going to a uniquely English ground with the 100+ years of football nostalgia swirling through the ethers, the dodgy pies and chips, and still being able to find home brew in the odd old pub. Man City have sold their soul - and while it looks glamorous from the outside - we have something they can never buy and should never give it up.
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I agree with you KP, but I would like the new stadium, facilities and infrastructure etc I think our fans, and the city deserve it however, the minute they start to bring in the stupid mascots, pom pom girls and all that razamataz I will stop watching.
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Be careful what you wish for Stan. As an Englishman living in the USA I can tell you that I would weep if Liverpool adopted the 'American-style' approach to sports. There is something very plastic and sterile about going to sporting events here - everything is commercial and manufactured, even the atmosphere. I love coming home and going to a uniquely English ground with the 100+ years of football nostalgia swirling through the ethers, the dodgy pies and chips, and still being able to find home brew in the odd old pub. Man City have sold their soul - and while it looks glamorous from the outside - we have something they can never buy and should never give it up. I agree and I said so in my OP citys set up is a bit plastic. But unfortuntely thats the way the world is going. If you want tradition watch Lincoln City. But I agree its a shame.
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So then you are suggesting we move with the times? But the times call for high ticket prices. Then you would prefer we were traditional and ticket prices allowed for the common working man to attend games...
Well, which do you want, move with the times or not? Hmmmm
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So then you are suggesting we move with the times? But the times call for high ticket prices. Then you would prefer we were traditional and ticket prices allowed for the common working man to attend games...
Well, which do you want, move with the times or not? Hmmmm Read my original post again city's prices are less than half Liverpool's and they are the champions they are building an affordable high quality product people want to buy and more importantly will do in the long term. Liverpool's strategy is short term
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Went to city vs Liverpool last night did I mention that? Anyway I know you're not going to like this but it has to be said.
I only go to the Eithad once a year and every year it gets more impressive. Its simply astonishing its called the Eithad Campus now you can jump on a modern tram and be at the ground from the centre of the city in 5 minutes the tram drops you off at the campus. The Campus is called because in addition to the football stadia there are other sports facilities.
Where at Anfield the fare is burgers / sausage and chips / pies from vans the Campus has well known high street franchises in purpose build buildings with seating areas along with bars that are on a par with the city centre. There is a reason for this football is heading for the American model where people don't just go for the game they make a day of it.
As the demand increases so will the stadium capacity and given the space it is limitless. Coming back from the game yes a bit of a wait for 10 mins or so then back into Piccadilly in the heart of Manchester in 5 minutes, three stops.
The lowest ticket price at Anfield is £710 at City its £299.
You saw the gulf in the teams last night you don't need to be a brain surgeon to see the future.
I am sure some will come on and tell me if we can get more for our ticket prices we should charge the maximum immediate price we can so as to get the money in the club. That is so short sighted and mind numbingly stupid I would not know where to start.
Unless Liverpool build an equivalent then you can forget our club winning anything in the future other than the odd cup or so. Football has changed and it is changing I thought in the days of Moores we were being left behind by Manchester United believe me folks this is on another scale.
And as for demand curves well you can shove them up your a***
We have to build what the customer of the future wants and provide it to them the customer will ultimately drive football not the other way around.
Oh and one last thing unlike Anfield where the spectators are 70% plus middle aged and elderly at City I saw visibly greater numbers of young people. The only negative to Citys set up vs Anfield is it was very corporate / marketing where Anfield is more traditional (which I like) but I am an old git that format is what the modern customer wants as on the NFL model. I also saw a lot of foregin people at City Spanish / Korean / Japanese etc and if you want to come where better than Manchester with that infrastructure.
And yet the etihad is rearly if ever full!!
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