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I disagree, we were in control until Moreno made that first mistake. Our shape looked fine and we had more of the ball and more attacking opportunities. The difference was that they pounced on their first scrap of a chance, and we wasted all of ours. After that, they were firmly in control. And why did the team lose control, they should have maintained discipline, football is a 90+ minutes game, if they kept their heads down and not conceded the easy second goal they could have scrapped through, big matches have narrow margins between victory and defeat the players can't expect City and Chelsea and Champions League teams to be the same as Southampton and Everton, top class teams are strong all over on defense and offense, they also have you well figured out and know where our weakness and strengths are and prepare accordingly
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What were we controlling exactly, they had more possession and were in our half, they were putting more pressure, we hardly had any clear chance, so what do you mean? We only contained them and mistakes happen because of pressure. They were the much better team than us, take off your biassed blinkers.
I'm sorry, I don't know where you're getting your possession stats from, but they are incorrect. According to Squawka and opta, we had the lion share of possession for the game. The only time city had more of the ball was that 5 minute window in which the first goal happened (from the 40-45 minute period). We created 9 chances to their 7, had 12 shots on target to their 9, and 25 crosses to their 12. The first goal was only their third shot of the match. They were feeding on scraps until we slipped and they made us pay. That isn't my biased blinkers, that's an objective fact. Edit: 12 total shots to their 9. They had 4 on target and we had 3. The difference was clinicality. Clinicality and mistakes are part of the game and IMO, there win was comfortable, they even offered a goal to Lambert who has lost his balls and wanted to pass intead of shooting. Most of our shots were easy saves for Hart. They also ended up having 53% possession as I said. In any case it's the final result that counts and you should ask yourself why it's like only us making mistakes all the time, whether it be Skrtel, Johnson, Sakho, Mignolet, Gerrard, Flanno, Toure and now Alberto and Lovren. Football is not only about nice passing of the ball and all players make mistakes. City made mistakes too yesterday. You cannot say, if there were no mistakes then this and that, it doesn't work that way. I didn't say we deserved to win. I said that we looked in control in the first half, and we created more chances throughout. Was their win comfortable? I'm not sure I would say that, but they were the better team last night. Mistakes are inevitable in any game, but we're making many of them for the past year or so because our squad is largely still in transition. Gerrard had to adapt to a new role, and while he did very well at it, it wasn't perfect. Eventually he's going to have to be phased out, and the team is still learning how play without him being the heart, body and soul of it. Aside from Skyrtel (who took awhile to acclimatize to this new way to play), our back 4 hasn't even been consistently the same players, let alone consistently performing. We have a cb and two FBs to bed in and our goalkeeper is still young and learning how to play for a top 4 team (which is very different than playing for a team in a relegation scrap). When the system is executed correctly it works really well, but our squad has been young, unsettled, and inexperienced, so that doesn't always happen. Even when City were throwing silly money at everything, they took time to become a top 4 team, let alone title winners.
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I didn't say we deserved to win. I said that we looked in control in the first half, and we created more chances throughout. Was their win comfortable? I'm not sure I would say that, but they were the better team last night. Mistakes are inevitable in any game, but we're making many of them for the past year or so because our squad is largely still in transition.
Gerrard had to adapt to a new role, and while he did very well at it, it wasn't perfect. Eventually he's going to have to be phased out, and the team is still learning how play without him being the heart, body and soul of it. Aside from Skyrtel (who took awhile to acclimatize to this new way to play), our back 4 hasn't even been consistently the same players, let alone consistently performing. We have a cb and two FBs to bed in and our goalkeeper is still young and learning how to play for a top 4 team (which is very different than playing for a team in a relegation scrap). When the system is executed correctly it works really well, but our squad has been young, unsettled, and inexperienced, so that doesn't always happen.
Even when City were throwing silly money at everything, they took time to become a top 4 team, let alone title winners.
All what you say is fine and I agree, City was the better team and deserved their win. I however don't agree with we looked to control the game statement and it doesn't mean much because in most games both team have their good period. I don't remember any clear chance during that period. I could also say that Southampton controlled the 2nd half against us last week, but, it doesn't mean much, I would say, so what?
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ok got beat with a couple of errors , but all reds have to remember not many if anyone will beat or even take points MCFC on there ground .
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Yep, and i also don't think many will take off points from us at home either.
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Yep, and i also don't think many will take off points from us at home either. your right liverpool should be very strong at home , plus it was MCFC's first home game as champions not easy to beat most teams in there first home game , yes liverpool made a couple of mistakes but the likes of young moreno will learn , plus mario and lallana to come in maybe one more who knows .
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Yep, and i also don't think many will take off points from us at home either. I hope so because was not too impressed against Southampton who only drew their following game against WBA. We need to jack up big time.
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But we beat Southampton so they didn't take points off us at home.
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We need our defense learning how to communicate and play with each other. Some say it was Johnson/Skrtel's fault for the 2nd goal for keeping the player onside, other's think that it was Lovren/Moreno's for moving forward to quickly and giving players room to make runs. The problem is that they're not communicating with each other and letting each other know what's going on. I actually think Lovren had a shocker. he needs to get on the same level as the rest and build some communication skills with them.
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Yeh and that beautifully illustrates Pops why this will take time bedding in players we don't have in winning the league.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.
George Washington
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