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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
But we beat Southampton so they didn't take points off us at home.


Yes but it was a hard fought game. City had an easier win against us than we had at Southampton. Anyway are you saying that you are happy with our performances so far?

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Couldn't care less what the performance is like if we win, as we did against Southampton. Better that than the play really well but loose method. Didn't see the City game so can't comment on how we played.

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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Couldn't care less what the performance is like if we win, as we did against Southampton. Better that than the play really well but loose method. Didn't see the City game so can't comment on how we played.


So you don't care about the performance but have belief that we will win? How do you work this out?

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Did Chelsea give a [oops] about their performance against us and others when they parked the bus? As long as we win it can be good bad or ugly for me. Obviously the worse we play the less I will believe we will win but the season is in it's infancy and we didn't play really well until after xmas last year. Yet we still finished 2nd.

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I disagree, we were in control until Moreno made that first mistake. Our shape looked fine and we had more of the ball and more attacking opportunities. The difference was that they pounced on their first scrap of a chance, and we wasted all of ours. After that, they were firmly in control.


What were we controlling exactly, they had more possession and were in our half, they were putting more pressure, we hardly had any clear chance, so what do you mean? We only contained them and mistakes happen because of pressure. They were the much better team than us, take off your biassed blinkers.



I'm sorry, I don't know where you're getting your possession stats from, but they are incorrect. According to Squawka and opta, we had the lion share of possession for the game. The only time city had more of the ball was that 5 minute window in which the first goal happened (from the 40-45 minute period). We created 9 chances to their 7, had 12 shots on target to their 9, and 25 crosses to their 12. The first goal was only their third shot of the match. They were feeding on scraps until we slipped and they made us pay. That isn't my biased blinkers, that's an objective fact.




Beeb is saying 53 to 47 to city given we had more possession in the first half notably we must of been mauled in the second half


As I said, I was referring to the first half.

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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Did Chelsea give a [oops] about their performance against us and others when they parked the bus? As long as we win it can be good bad or ugly for me. Obviously the worse we play the less I will believe we will win but the season is in it's infancy and we didn't play really well until after xmas last year. Yet we still finished 2nd.


You are missing the point completely, yes as long as we win the performance is not important, but, to believe in a win in the next game has everything to do with past performance. Coming back to the Chelsea game last season, they came with a plan which worked so IMO it was a good performance for them as our firing forwards hardly created a chance, it was a great defensive performance. I make a difference between a good performance and play nice football. Italy won world cups by playing ugly but the performance was great. Don't mix performance with tactics.

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So if Italy win ugly it's a good performance but we win ugly and it's not? A win is a win regardless of performance and will always impart confidence in supporters and players (unless your glass is half empty of course).

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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
So if Italy win ugly it's a good performance but we win ugly and it's not? A win is a win regardless of performance and will always impart confidence in supporters and players (unless your glass is half empty of course).


If Italy plans to play ugly (read defensive) and get their result, it's a good performance, same as us if the intention was the same. But I don't think we played defensive against Southampton, we tried to play our game and it was a bad performance based on our last season's standards. Are you denying this? Were you happy with the performance even if you say you didn't give a damn? Would you like us to show a similar effort against Spurs? Honestly

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