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Originally Posted By: vish LFC
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I disagree, we were in control until Moreno made that first mistake. Our shape looked fine and we had more of the ball and more attacking opportunities. The difference was that they pounced on their first scrap of a chance, and we wasted all of ours. After that, they were firmly in control.


What were we controlling exactly, they had more possession and were in our half, they were putting more pressure, we hardly had any clear chance, so what do you mean? We only contained them and mistakes happen because of pressure. They were the much better team than us, take off your biassed blinkers.


I have to disagree with you Vish. I don't think its fair to suggest people that agree with Rodgers on how the first half played out are wearing biased blinkers. I was fairly content with my prediction up until their second goal went in. Our control of possession was much higher up the pitch and we created a few half chances (to their solitary one gifted from a mistake)... Wouldn't say that would put my view as through tinted glasses...

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I felt first half we had a lot of possession but were not hurting city then they stepped up a gear and scored and scored again and again. They reminded me of Man United 10 years ago soak up the pressure and then hit hard and fast, Last night showed how far we have to go to win the title and today it looks a long way away. Money over the long term talks in football they have progressed from a collection of stars to a cohesive squad and a very deep squad at that. Squad wise they are more powerful than Chelsea albeit I think Chelsea have the better manager in my opinion

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Originally Posted By: vish LFC
Originally Posted By: redordead13
I disagree, we were in control until Moreno made that first mistake. Our shape looked fine and we had more of the ball and more attacking opportunities. The difference was that they pounced on their first scrap of a chance, and we wasted all of ours. After that, they were firmly in control.


What were we controlling exactly, they had more possession and were in our half, they were putting more pressure, we hardly had any clear chance, so what do you mean? We only contained them and mistakes happen because of pressure. They were the much better team than us, take off your biassed blinkers.


I'm sorry, I don't know where you're getting your possession stats from, but they are incorrect. According to Squawka and opta, we had the lion share of possession for the game. The only time city had more of the ball was that 5 minute window in which the first goal happened (from the 40-45 minute period). We created 9 chances to their 7, had 12 shots on target to their 9, and 25 crosses to their 12. The first goal was only their third shot of the match. They were feeding on scraps until we slipped and they made us pay. That isn't my biased blinkers, that's an objective fact.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
I felt first half we had a lot of possession but were not hurting city then they stepped up a gear and scored and scored again and again. They reminded me of Man United 10 years ago soak up the pressure and then hit hard and fast, Last night showed how far we have to go to win the title and today it looks a long way away. Money over the long term talks in football they have progressed from a collection of stars to a cohesive squad and a very deep squad at that. Squad wise they are more powerful than Chelsea albeit I think Chelsea have the better manager in my opinion


On paper, City are hands down the best team in the league, and arguably the best team in the world. They're oceans deep with quality in every position, and they've got weapons to win in every way possible. They can play the power game, the pace game, they can play possession, they can hit on the counter, they can play clever one touch balls, and they can play the aerial game. They're defensively solid, clinical finishers, and they have goals from all over the team and from the bench. Unfortunately, they're what we're up against, and we're a ways from being better than them.

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Originally Posted By: redordead13
Originally Posted By: vish LFC
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I disagree, we were in control until Moreno made that first mistake. Our shape looked fine and we had more of the ball and more attacking opportunities. The difference was that they pounced on their first scrap of a chance, and we wasted all of ours. After that, they were firmly in control.


What were we controlling exactly, they had more possession and were in our half, they were putting more pressure, we hardly had any clear chance, so what do you mean? We only contained them and mistakes happen because of pressure. They were the much better team than us, take off your biassed blinkers.


I'm sorry, I don't know where you're getting your possession stats from, but they are incorrect. According to Squawka and opta, we had the lion share of possession for the game. The only time city had more of the ball was that 5 minute window in which the first goal happened (from the 40-45 minute period). We created 9 chances to their 7, had 12 shots on target to their 9, and 25 crosses to their 12. The first goal was only their third shot of the match. They were feeding on scraps until we slipped and they made us pay. That isn't my biased blinkers, that's an objective fact.


Really? I read they had 53% possession. Are you saying that the best team lost?

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Originally Posted By: redordead13
Originally Posted By: vish LFC
Originally Posted By: redordead13
I disagree, we were in control until Moreno made that first mistake. Our shape looked fine and we had more of the ball and more attacking opportunities. The difference was that they pounced on their first scrap of a chance, and we wasted all of ours. After that, they were firmly in control.


What were we controlling exactly, they had more possession and were in our half, they were putting more pressure, we hardly had any clear chance, so what do you mean? We only contained them and mistakes happen because of pressure. They were the much better team than us, take off your biassed blinkers.


I'm sorry, I don't know where you're getting your possession stats from, but they are incorrect. According to Squawka and opta, we had the lion share of possession for the game. The only time city had more of the ball was that 5 minute window in which the first goal happened (from the 40-45 minute period). We created 9 chances to their 7, had 12 shots on target to their 9, and 25 crosses to their 12. The first goal was only their third shot of the match. They were feeding on scraps until we slipped and they made us pay. That isn't my biased blinkers, that's an objective fact.


Edit: 12 total shots to their 9. They had 4 on target and we had 3. The difference was clinicality.

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Originally Posted By: redordead13
I disagree, we were in control until Moreno made that first mistake. Our shape looked fine and we had more of the ball and more attacking opportunities. The difference was that they pounced on their first scrap of a chance, and we wasted all of ours. After that, they were firmly in control.


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Originally Posted By: vish LFC
Originally Posted By: redordead13
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Originally Posted By: redordead13
I disagree, we were in control until Moreno made that first mistake. Our shape looked fine and we had more of the ball and more attacking opportunities. The difference was that they pounced on their first scrap of a chance, and we wasted all of ours. After that, they were firmly in control.


What were we controlling exactly, they had more possession and were in our half, they were putting more pressure, we hardly had any clear chance, so what do you mean? We only contained them and mistakes happen because of pressure. They were the much better team than us, take off your biassed blinkers.


I'm sorry, I don't know where you're getting your possession stats from, but they are incorrect. According to Squawka and opta, we had the lion share of possession for the game. The only time city had more of the ball was that 5 minute window in which the first goal happened (from the 40-45 minute period). We created 9 chances to their 7, had 12 shots on target to their 9, and 25 crosses to their 12. The first goal was only their third shot of the match. They were feeding on scraps until we slipped and they made us pay. That isn't my biased blinkers, that's an objective fact.


Really? I read they had 53% possession. Are you saying that the best team lost?


We had more of the ball until the 40th minute. After that, they did. That doesn't necessarily mean we were better, we were just in the driver's seat. They took their chances when they got them, we didn't. So they were better.

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Originally Posted By: Growler
Originally Posted By: redordead13
I disagree, we were in control until Moreno made that first mistake. Our shape looked fine and we had more of the ball and more attacking opportunities. The difference was that they pounced on their first scrap of a chance, and we wasted all of ours. After that, they were firmly in control.


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Originally Posted By: redordead13
Originally Posted By: redordead13
Originally Posted By: vish LFC
Originally Posted By: redordead13
I disagree, we were in control until Moreno made that first mistake. Our shape looked fine and we had more of the ball and more attacking opportunities. The difference was that they pounced on their first scrap of a chance, and we wasted all of ours. After that, they were firmly in control.


What were we controlling exactly, they had more possession and were in our half, they were putting more pressure, we hardly had any clear chance, so what do you mean? We only contained them and mistakes happen because of pressure. They were the much better team than us, take off your biassed blinkers.


I'm sorry, I don't know where you're getting your possession stats from, but they are incorrect. According to Squawka and opta, we had the lion share of possession for the game. The only time city had more of the ball was that 5 minute window in which the first goal happened (from the 40-45 minute period). We created 9 chances to their 7, had 12 shots on target to their 9, and 25 crosses to their 12. The first goal was only their third shot of the match. They were feeding on scraps until we slipped and they made us pay. That isn't my biased blinkers, that's an objective fact.


Edit: 12 total shots to their 9. They had 4 on target and we had 3. The difference was clinicality.


Clinicality and mistakes are part of the game and IMO, there win was comfortable, they even offered a goal to Lambert who has lost his balls and wanted to pass intead of shooting. Most of our shots were easy saves for Hart. They also ended up having 53% possession as I said. In any case it's the final result that counts and you should ask yourself why it's like only us making mistakes all the time, whether it be Skrtel, Johnson, Sakho, Mignolet, Gerrard, Flanno, Toure and now Alberto and Lovren. Football is not only about nice passing of the ball and all players make mistakes. City made mistakes too yesterday. You cannot say, if there were no mistakes then this and that, it doesn't work that way.

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