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I'd also argue that he's not as flawed as some think or as Suarez. Yes his attitude on the pitch has been shocking at times but as far as I know, he's not resorted to cannibalism just because someone gets the better of him? He's eccentric I'd say rather than flawed.

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Let's be honest, we all know he is a decent talent. We also know:

-He represents the complete end of the opposite in its most extreme, if you look at the ethos BR has installed since arriving.

-His behavior leaves allot to be desired for at the best of times, did we really need this after the chaos with Luis?

- He totally lacks passion and desire and very often mopes around the pitch, can you imagine him hassling and harrying defenders, closing down, giving everything for the badge>

Leads me to 1 conclusion. We didn't prepare early enough for Luis's departure, or our main target to replace him slipped away.

As much as i am intrigued with Mario's signing, as much as i seriously hope he is a massive hit, I cant help but feel this 1 has come from pure desperation. But I don't blame anyone for this.

Luis could not have left us at a more inconvenient time. There is, quite simply put, a complete lack of world class forwards out there at the moment, not just forwards who are available, but forwards in general. You couldn't pick 5/6 players who could replace Luis, aside of Messi/ Ronaldo. Can't ever remember an era like this.


Nice post mate and the first bit of critical thinking I've seen on the subject. Agreed with every word.

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I'd also argue that he's not as flawed as some think or as Suarez. Yes his attitude on the pitch has been shocking at times but as far as I know, he's not resorted to cannibalism just because someone gets the better of him? He's eccentric I'd say rather than flawed.


Maybe it's not the extremity but the frequency that we need to worry about. If he works hard for the team, hassling and harrying defenders as the OP mentioned, then I'll be happy with him but more often than not I've seen him moping around appearing uninterested.

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If BR instructs him to lie down in the opposition penalty box and have a smoke, i will still be happy. I don't care whether he chases defenders and closes down, as long as he does what THE MANAGER tells him to do. That's all i ask.


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I'd also argue that he's not as flawed as some think or as Suarez. Yes his attitude on the pitch has been shocking at times but as far as I know, he's not resorted to cannibalism just because someone gets the better of him? He's eccentric I'd say rather than flawed.


Maybe it's not the extremity but the frequency that we need to worry about. If he works hard for the team, hassling and harrying defenders as the OP mentioned, then I'll be happy with him but more often than not I've seen him moping around appearing uninterested.


Yeah the work ethic is the worry for me. Also, how many times has he been sent off? is it excessive?

I couldn't care less if he decides to set fire to his house by having a firework party in his bathroom though. Keep that [oops] at home and be professional at the club and all will be well for me.

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His red car count does worry me a bit, but i think that with age comes wisdom and we will be seeing fewer red cards for him nowadays.


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I'd also argue that he's not as flawed as some think or as Suarez. Yes his attitude on the pitch has been shocking at times but as far as I know, he's not resorted to cannibalism just because someone gets the better of him? He's eccentric I'd say rather than flawed.


Maybe it's not the extremity but the frequency that we need to worry about. If he works hard for the team, hassling and harrying defenders as the OP mentioned, then I'll be happy with him but more often than not I've seen him moping around appearing uninterested.


Yeah the work ethic is the worry for me. Also, how many times has he been sent off? is it excessive?

I couldn't care less if he decides to set fire to his house by having a firework party in his bathroom though. Keep that [oops] at home and be professional at the club and all will be well for me.


Yeah I agree with that, totally. I'm sure we'll all enjoy his antics and apparently he's always a hit with team mates.

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Allow me to put forward a different point of view.

A world class striker like Ballotelli becomes available at a cut price 16mil when he is easily worth double that. He is linked to Arsenal but they get Sanchez. We are short of strikers, he wants the move, he knows he will get game time.

Would it not be foolish to let such an opportunity slip?

Perhaps it is not desperation, perhaps it is just good business sense. Especially if the rumours that we are still trying to thrash out a loan for Falcao are true. Etoo would have spelled "desperation" to me, Ballotelli does not.

Just my opinion.


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For the money. He is worth the gamble.

16mil balotelli.
14mil borini
12mil long
11mil Ross McCormack.

You cannot be disappointed with the money we are paying.

He will know he is running out of chances.

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Originally Posted By: Ninja Skrtel
Allow me to put forward a different point of view.

A world class striker like Ballotelli becomes available at a cut price 16mil when he is easily worth double that. He is linked to Arsenal but they get Sanchez. We are short of strikers, he wants the move, he knows he will get game time.

Would it not be foolish to let such an opportunity slip?

Perhaps it is not desperation, perhaps it is just good business sense. Especially if the rumours that we are still trying to thrash out a loan for Falcao are true. Etoo would have spelled "desperation" to me, Ballotelli does not.

Just my opinion.


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I would call Italy's starting striker world class, yes.


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