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Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
so you think that save that he tipped on to the bar in the 2nd half winning the points for liverpool was an easy save plus the two very good stops in the first half especially the one the wind caught nearly taking it in were easy , well sorry it wasnt easy , migno is a very good young keeper who will get better .

All three saves you mention were saves you’d expect any PL level keeper to make, and if they didn’t, there’d be serious questions raised as to their competence. Just because it was OUR keeper that made them doesn’t make them world class or indeed any better saves than they were, they were the normal run off the mill shots you’d expect keepers in the PL to make

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I wouldn't expect a goalie to make the last save. the power and closeness of the shot meant that even fast reflexes wouldn't be enough if the hand wasn't strong enough. It was a terrific save imo.

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Originally Posted By: Maxi88
I wouldn't expect a goalie to make the last save. the power and closeness of the shot meant that even fast reflexes wouldn't be enough if the hand wasn't strong enough. It was a terrific save imo.


Agreed.

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Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
so you think that save that he tipped on to the bar in the 2nd half winning the points for liverpool was an easy save plus the two very good stops in the first half especially the one the wind caught nearly taking it in were easy , well sorry it wasnt easy , migno is a very good young keeper who will get better .

All three saves you mention were saves you’d expect any PL level keeper to make, and if they didn’t, there’d be serious questions raised as to their competence. Just because it was OUR keeper that made them doesn’t make them world class or indeed any better saves than they were, they were the normal run off the mill shots you’d expect keepers in the PL to make
utter nonsense sadly .

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Originally Posted By: redordead13
I'm with you on this one, Faz. Maybe they don't remember how terrible Reina's shot stopping got.


I remember how good he was when we signed him and that was much better than Migs and I don't see Migs as an improvement even on a poor Reina.

I've nothing against the bloke but as I said before, he doesn't fill me with confidence and I don't know why. Even when Reina was going off the boil, he had something about him that Migs doesn't seem to have.

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Originally Posted By: redordead13
I'm with you on this one, Faz. Maybe they don't remember how terrible Reina's shot stopping got.


I remember how good he was when we signed him and that was much better than Migs and I don't see Migs as an improvement even on a poor Reina.

I've nothing against the bloke but as I said before, he doesn't fill me with confidence and I don't know why. Even when Reina was going off the boil, he had something about him that Migs doesn't seem to have.


At his height, Reina was the best in the league, but for his past 2 or 3 years he was a liability. He improved slightly towards the end of 2013, but he was missing easy shots, coming off his line far too early and often, and too slow getting up after diving. His distribution and foot skill were great, but a keeper's first job is to stop shots which he wasn't doing.

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I don't think anyone can really argue reina was on a downward spiral, he would pull off the occasional wonder save but he was definitely not consistent and was increasingly poor with corners so freshening up the sticks with a new young promising keeper was the right thing to do and mingolet looked like had the attributes to make a step up.

His save at the weekend was good, I don't think every pl keeper would have made it necessarily, but it is the kind of good save you see pretty often over the course of the season from a range of keepers so it wasn't as special as some like to make out. In general I think mingolets shot stoppingis above average, the first half of last season it was effing fantastic but after that he had an average season with the odd class save. He's never shown signs of dominating an area even before Liverpool. He's an above average keeper and still relatively young so might improve a lot and he's certainly not bad enough to be a desperate area for improvement and does show signs that he can develop into a very good keeper. He will, IMO, never be a top keeper based on the potential he has shown. Top keeper is a bit vague I guess and subjective to what you mean, but I'd suggest he will never be as good as reina was in his pomp, however he is good enough for now, and young enough to get better. Instil confidence in the back four he does not however, and that's pretty important for a strong defence.

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I agree with the op I rate migs great shot stopper and his reflexes were superb for the save on to the bar that shot was close range and had some power behind it got us the 3 points from our first game once again and gives us the platform to kick on.

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