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I'd take a Europa League trophey before 4th place anytime, its still a trophey...but id perfer both :p 4th is more important without a doubt. having said that it would be nice to win europa league.
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Carragher and Gerrard would have come through the ranks who ever was in charge plus I think Carragher has imporved 100% since Rafa took over.
probably but you never know. with rafa in charge im afraid we'll never see another promising youngster go all the way and become a star. at the moment pachecos talent is wasted, and he might never be the player he could be with a different manager.
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I'm only playing devils advocate here Swede but how do we now how good Pacheco is? All we've got to go on is here say and clips of the tv.
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thats a good point but lets put it like this, i'm not so sure rafa would have given messi or iniesta a chance if he was the manager of barca at the time they hit the ranks...
not saying pach will ever be as good as them, but my understanding is that rafa has no faith at all in our youngsters. and he must have brought over 150-200 youngsters (35 goalkeepers!) since he came here.
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Ha ha! I know what you mean about the keepers  In think thats a bit unfair with regards to Messi and Iniesta! Maybe its juts a simple case of what we've got in the youth department just isnt either good enough or ready. Who knows? 
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just read the other day we had signed a new goalie from swindon i think... just frustrating to see so many youngsters being brought in to the academy, yet insua is the only one who has taken the step up to the 1st team.
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sorry don't buy that blaming previous managers lark. he has had time and he had decent players and 2 world class players at the club already. he has also spent more than most clubs,sorry he has end of story. no net spend bull ,he has paid big money for every position in the team,17m right back,8 mill left back,plenty on centre halfs, millions on each wing and in centre same up top. he has spent loads.
I loved rafa first season,not just cause of europe ,he brought xabi here and I taught rafa knew the score and was another wenger,still liked him when crouch came as I thought he is trying to master the english game,,but I turned the day we went to blackburn and played a 10-1 formation drew 0-0 and barely even bothered attacking. Xabi was a unknown when he came to LFC, after Rafa bought him, he made a name for himself a liverpool.
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he was a 10 million pound nobody lol.and i think Madrid wanted him then.
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nope, not even 1% of lfc fans knew who xabi was, same goes for that useless josemi. it was a unknown period, we ddnt know what quality we were getting
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we knew he had KWALITEE but we wouldn't have ever got him without Rafa
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