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#427637 26/07/14 11:12 AM
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first I'm speaking as an Arabian from the gulf myself, people need to be careful what they wish for, almost all theses Arab and Russian billionaires amassed their wealth through illegitimate means, and they don't want to buy European football clubs just out of luxury, they do it to launder money and buy political favors by indirect means

an example, Qatar bought PSG despite the huge taxes that inflate costs compared to clubs in Italy, Spain..etc, the club was just one in package of huge purchases in businesses and banks in France to increase political influence, the Qatar world cup is just one of the prizes. and the D. Luiz 50 million deal was just a favor from Qatar to Abramovich, it was not a stupid decision but deliberate action for other favors.


one of the previous potential LFC buyers from Kuwait called Khurafi is now deep in a political scandal involving stealing over 20 billion of the county surplus, that was a bullet dodged.

these people have 100s of billions rotting in European banks and need to spend it on something to make it public and legitimate. are LFC fans fine with the club being used like that? what happens when European power men decide they have taken all they want from these people in decide to cut them off and take position of the properties under administration?



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think everyone understands this...city are owned by modern day slave drivers.

unlikely that anyone will look to seize property tho.people with that much cash make the rules.when the oil runs out maybe

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There is not a black and white answer to this you are right I would rather have FSG than some dodgy crook. But city's owners seem fine to me and they are not just showering the club with money but building a long term sustInable future how they acquired their money I don't know and don't care. How did John Henry acquire his wealth pretty sure he stood on a few people to get there. What matters is the club and we build the infrastructure the club needs if we want to do that without an owner of impecable background unsullied by anything we might be waiting a long time


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Hi EastMan,

Very good post bud. I agree with a lot of it. I myself have seen these things happen too in Serbia where the two biggest clubs are not owned privately but are used by the government for political propaganda and points. The spark which triggered the war between Serbia and Croatia was too in fact a football match between between Red Star Belgrade and Dinamo Zagreb.

Its crazy


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Interesting read…

I have to say the David Luiz deal for £50mil has surely raised alarm bells everywhere, it's was obviously dodgy.

I think we'll see other mad transfer between the richer clubs for reasons you have mentioned.

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Very interesting post and raises some big concerns within the great game. There are lots of positives and negatives in the sport. FSG are more 'positive' than the latter.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
There is not a black and white answer to this you are right I would rather have FSG than some dodgy crook. But city's owners seem fine to me and they are not just showering the club with money but building a long term sustInable future how they acquired their money I don't know and don't care. How did John Henry acquire his wealth pretty sure he stood on a few people to get there. What matters is the club and we build the infrastructure the club needs if we want to do that without an owner of impecable background unsullied by anything we might be waiting a long time


City owners preferred City to LFC, so what's your point? If you like them, nobody's preventing you support City. Baffles me that you want others to risk their money while you were pi55ed when the ticket prices were increased, despite the fact that the demand was there, all tickets were sold and all the additional revenue stayed in the club.

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Originally Posted By: vish LFC
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
There is not a black and white answer to this you are right I would rather have FSG than some dodgy crook. But city's owners seem fine to me and they are not just showering the club with money but building a long term sustInable future how they acquired their money I don't know and don't care. How did John Henry acquire his wealth pretty sure he stood on a few people to get there. What matters is the club and we build the infrastructure the club needs if we want to do that without an owner of impecable background unsullied by anything we might be waiting a long time


City owners preferred City to LFC, so what's your point? If you like them, nobody's preventing you support City. Baffles me that you want others to risk their money while you were pi55ed when the ticket prices were increased, despite the fact that the demand was there, all tickets were sold and all the additional revenue stayed in the club.


Liverpool FC have huge demand for tickets and will always sell out at the 45k capacity and I bet up to 60k and beyond. Which is a pretty good reason to build a stadium big enough. We are very similar to Manchester United which is why their capacity is 76k and long term will be 90k. My point is FSG are not big enough for LFC like powering a rolls royce car with a 1000 cc engine.


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Originally Posted By: sixtiesred
Originally Posted By: vish LFC
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
There is not a black and white answer to this you are right I would rather have FSG than some dodgy crook. But city's owners seem fine to me and they are not just showering the club with money but building a long term sustInable future how they acquired their money I don't know and don't care. How did John Henry acquire his wealth pretty sure he stood on a few people to get there. What matters is the club and we build the infrastructure the club needs if we want to do that without an owner of impecable background unsullied by anything we might be waiting a long time


City owners preferred City to LFC, so what's your point? If you like them, nobody's preventing you support City. Baffles me that you want others to risk their money while

you were pi55ed when the ticket prices were increased, despite the fact that the demand was there, all tickets were sold and all the additional revenue stayed in the club.



But of course demand is there going to the match is not like choosing which brand of baked beans you buy ! match fans are addicted to lfc its a habbit a obsession choosing not to go is not an option for these fans so it is a little bit of a bent comparission to say its supply and demand tecnically yes, realistically no ! i have gone to games tralvelled for hours to get there when i should of probably stayed at home with injuries of broken arm and wrist but to me it wasnt an option i had to go i could walk ! And thats how lfc can put prices up and know they will sell we were addicted to the game the club the atmosphere the comradery unless you have expeireinced it it is hard to grasp dont forget theres 44 k tickets available and probably 2 or 3 hundred thousand around the uk wanting to go to the game it is stacked heavily in favour of the club so to me its not a simple supply and demand issue if i cant get my favourite baked beans i will buy another brand if i cant go to lfc i wont go to everton or city or utd hope i explained it well enough ?


But you can also watch on tv like millions of fans and as you are doing today. I've never been to Anfield, doesn't mean that I cannot support the club. In anycase addiction is bad, if you cannot afford it, you shouldn't buy, you can say the same for gambling.


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