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Originally Posted By: Joe King Allen
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Lovren is a good player but I don't think its personell that let us down defensivly last season. Its the way the team was set up.

Only a couple of seasons ago under Dalglish and Clarke we had the best defence in the PL with the exact same players at the back
but never won any games and scored no goals .

Think you've missed the point faz old mate
never mate , i want the way brendan plays not back to the old boring ways .

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Faz's point is that Agger And Skyrtel are more suited to a Rafa or Kenny style system (much more defensive). They looked great with Rafa or Steve Clark organizing them. But with a high line in a Rodgers style pressing system, occasionally they look exposed. Perhaps they will adapt, but Lovren has shown that he fits in a similar way of defending.

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Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
Originally Posted By: smithlee2011
Lovren is a good player but I don't think its personell that let us down defensivly last season. Its the way the team was set up.

Only a couple of seasons ago under Dalglish and Clarke we had the best defence in the PL with the exact same players at the back
but never won any games and scored no goals .


Never won any games, really? Wonder how we went to 2 cup finals, how we beat City and United. We did have the highest 'hitting the post' in the season though.

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That was doing my nut in hitting the friggin post week in, week out..

If Lovren fits in, I don't care if he costs 100 million.
I don't hear Utd, Arsenal or Tottenham fans complaining if they pay 15 / 20 mill for a player, regardless of how it works out.
It's like the Liverpool supporters bloody disease sick

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Originally Posted By: vish LFC
Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
Originally Posted By: smithlee2011
Lovren is a good player but I don't think its personell that let us down defensivly last season. Its the way the team was set up.

Only a couple of seasons ago under Dalglish and Clarke we had the best defence in the PL with the exact same players at the back
but never won any games and scored no goals .


Never won any games, really? Wonder how we went to 2 cup finals, how we beat City and United. We did have the highest 'hitting the post' in the season though.
6 league wins at home vish , is that really good enough , scored one of the lowest totals of goals ever in the clubs history and sadly dalglish's brand of football was not good sadly .

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I really don't know how much he's worth tbh, but what I do know is that he plays in the position we need to improve on more than any other.


Agger, Skrtel, Sakho, is lovren actually better than them? Is that really 20 million pounds well spent? In my opinion not even close.

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Sakho was 18mil if I'm not mistaken.

Agger and Skrtel are living off some past potential hype in my opinion. Agger showed plenty of promise but never kicked on, still has a lot of talent but there's no consistency at all.
Skrtel was a very, very lucky boy last season considering the tactics he employed at corners and free kicks.

Is Lovren worth the reported 20mil though? I'll get back to you once he has a full season under his belt playing under Rodgers system.

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Fantastic stats. Thanks for sharing. No wonder we are prepared to pay so much.


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Not usually one for stats as they can be misleading (especially given players from better teams are more protected / under less pressure ect.)

But these stats are pretty promising - either that or Kompany's been pulling the wool over our eyes!!! shocked wink laugh

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