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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
You FSG guys all said sponsorship was going to be our saviour for some reason never explained that was the way it was going to be and this would cover the losses in our small stadium in the future.

E.g we would have lower gate receipts but higher sponsorship revenue because FSG are supreme at getting sponsorship.

Well where is thst now ?

It's fine saying we will get a better deal than them in future so we might but then they will up the bar again. We are living in their shadow and the fact Liverpool fans accept it is something I cannot grasp

What motivates you ?



What if we build a bigger Stadium and United decide to build an even bigger one?

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Originally Posted By: Maxi88
Well, as someone who often trumpets the line "no one knows what will happen in the future" you very often speak in definitive terms about what you expect to happen. You also show very little regard for other peoples facts and base a lot of your hopes and dreams based on the fact that Liverpool as a city is growing and claim the council is only waiting to throw money at the club.

There is very little point debating anything about the future of the club with you as you appear to be stuck in the past and have a deluded view of the importance of the stadium in terms of commercial issues


I told everyone about the Atlantic Gateway which no one other than locals had heard of massive implications for the city and the club. And thats a lie to say I said the council are willing to throw money at the club I said there is a possibility of it provide we groundshare which I still believe to be the case. And I have told you that three times so you are deliberately telling fibs.


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Originally Posted By: Eliot
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
You FSG guys all said sponsorship was going to be our saviour for some reason never explained that was the way it was going to be and this would cover the losses in our small stadium in the future.

E.g we would have lower gate receipts but higher sponsorship revenue because FSG are supreme at getting sponsorship.

Well where is thst now ?

It's fine saying we will get a better deal than them in future so we might but then they will up the bar again. We are living in their shadow and the fact Liverpool fans accept it is something I cannot grasp

What motivates you ?



What if we build a bigger Stadium and United decide to build an even bigger one?


90k is the foreseeable limit for both clubs


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Originally Posted By: Eliot
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
You FSG guys all said sponsorship was going to be our saviour for some reason never explained that was the way it was going to be and this would cover the losses in our small stadium in the future.

E.g we would have lower gate receipts but higher sponsorship revenue because FSG are supreme at getting sponsorship.

Well where is thst now ?

It's fine saying we will get a better deal than them in future so we might but then they will up the bar again. We are living in their shadow and the fact Liverpool fans accept it is something I cannot grasp

What motivates you ?



What if we build a bigger Stadium and United decide to build an even bigger one?


90k is the foreseeable limit for both clubs


So this is not where we'll make the difference, the difference will be made on the pitch through success. You say LFC is a bigger club than Chelsea in an earlier post, but based on what exactly? Only history that made us a bigger fan base, not because we have a bigger stadium but because we were more successful than them. Right now I would say Chelsea are a bigger club than us, they were even selling more shirts than us and have a younger fan base, nothing to do with the stadium but everything to do with their recent success.

It's great to have both success and a bigger stadium, but as resources are limited, if you had to choose, which one would you?

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I would choose success over a stadium vish if I was forced into making a choice but since when and why must we choose. A top club needs a top stadium

That's obvious


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This sponsorship deal for united show exactly why we don't need to waste loads of money on a new stadium! As a few have said already the stadium revenues are fast becoming a small fraction of total revenue generated, the bigger the tv deals and more country's that watch the premier league the bigger the sponsorship deals will become. United have tied themselves into a deal for ten years that could be a mistake.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Originally Posted By: Maxi88
Well, as someone who often trumpets the line "no one knows what will happen in the future" you very often speak in definitive terms about what you expect to happen. You also show very little regard for other peoples facts and base a lot of your hopes and dreams based on the fact that Liverpool as a city is growing and claim the council is only waiting to throw money at the club.

There is very little point debating anything about the future of the club with you as you appear to be stuck in the past and have a deluded view of the importance of the stadium in terms of commercial issues


I told everyone about the Atlantic Gateway which no one other than locals had heard of massive implications for the city and the club. And thats a lie to say I said the council are willing to throw money at the club I said there is a possibility of it provide we groundshare which I still believe to be the case. And I have told you that three times so you are deliberately telling fibs.


you have said the sentence the council has 2billion burning a hol in their pocket, the inference being that they are willing to give some to the club so don't call me a lier

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
I would choose success over a stadium vish if I was forced into making a choice but since when and why must we choose. A top club needs a top stadium

That's obvious


Top club in what? We are not even in the top 10 revenue wise, close to a 100m loss over the last 2 financial years, negative equity on the balance sheet, not in the CL in the last 5 years, not won the league in the last 24 years, no major trophy in the last 9 years. The only thing of value today is the fan base which has probably been eroding because of lack of success. Only a mad banker would dare to lend money to build a new stadium, with success on the pitch, that might change.

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Originally Posted By: boxmonkey
This sponsorship deal for united show exactly why we don't need to waste loads of money on a new stadium! As a few have said already the stadium revenues are fast becoming a small fraction of total revenue generated, the bigger the tv deals and more country's that watch the premier league the bigger the sponsorship deals will become. United have tied themselves into a deal for ten years that could be a mistake.


It's not just about gate receipts the stadium is the selling platform to tourists in the city and TV viewing imagine barca bayern or Real Madrid if they played in an unimpressive stadium you can't. Which is why Liverpool will never play at that table and future sponsorship deals will reflect that


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