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Notice not even a tiny acknowledgement from vish on being completely wrong on the future of Liverpool which would have been honourable never mind

Maxi I agree this is a huge once in a lifetime opportunity I was against ground share but prefer it to the FSG scheme. With a groundshare with the future tourism etc there could be a case for putting public funding or some form of assistance that would allow a moderate investment by LFC and Everton keeping the funds free for players. But even if just Liverpool on the scale of the overall investments even £500m is small change

But none of this will happen because the aim is FSG short term profit and the club, fans and city are not even in the equation

I personally think you wildly overestimate the tourist potential for a new stadium. It will not attract people with no interest in football and those who are interested in football would go to Anfield all the same.

People who go to the matches week in week out like yourself have a higher expectation than those who are travelling for an annual game or whatever. The atmosphere and the amenities within the stadium matter more to you and thats understandable but does that mean that it is in the broader interest of the club? In my opinion it doesn't as the club will be spending more money on a service that people were willing to pay for anyway.

You have also said that you expect ticket prices to fall. Where will the money required to pay for the increased costs of a 500mil stadium come from?

Wrong on what exactly, that the demographics might go up, so what? Do you know the population of London? What is the biggest stadium there, 90k seats? May be you don't know Genius, London doesn't need 20 years to get a population of 10m and I am not even adding the tourists. I thought you were more knowledgeable about your country or better at analysis.

You are just and old passionate fan talking without having all the information FSG have. Remember you said fans would stop going to stadium because they increased the ticket prices. I am dead sure it will be a sell out again this season. Some of the match going fans were even saying that the tickets were to be bought earlier last season because FSG were to sell Suarez, not sure if it was you.

I maintain you don't know what you are talking about because you do not have all the information (market, demographics, financial situation of the club, football industry etc) while FSG do and LFC is their asset, they would know better than you how to increase its value.

FSG have more access to information about LFC than me Vish

YES they do

Is that your point?

This is a forum where people give opinions or would you prefer we said nothing and trusted all to FSG? As for Liverpool you said the city was not expanding population and economically you were hopelessly wrong and hopefully you will now understand a little more about the city where the club you support is located.

I know enough about you to know you wont admit it but evidence and economic opportunities are there to be grasped. I did take a little time to explain the Atlantic Gateway to you it would show a little humility to say ok I did not realise that but....

But thats not you is it ?

And I did not say Liverpool was going to be bigger than London

I said

Outside London Liverpool is

Please read the points made

No you didn't read what I wrote. What's the biggest stadium size in London which already has the population Liverpool might have?

I have absolutely no idea what has that got to do with this? And following your announcement Liverpool is not economic growing or rapidly populating will you at least have the basic human humility to admit it was something you were unaware of ? Dont believe my nonesense check it out for yourself which I presime you have done hence the smokescreen about London and stadiums whatever that is about.

There is one thing I can tell you though Vish Manchester United are 76k City are 48 soon to be 57k and the rate they are expanding and the infrastruture I would not bet on them exceeding 57k in 10 years. Where will this leave us ?

FSG long gone fat profit made Liverpool and the north west being second economically only to London and us with a poxy ground at 58k that we can't exit from or expand.

Vish can we agree a baseline ?

Do you agree Liverpool is a rapidly growing city in terms of its regional economy ?

Or are you sticking to your original assertion ?

Probably yes Liverpool is expanding but as you said, it will be second to London where no club thought it wise to go beyond 60k. There is a reason for that, marginal cost (per seat) shoots up significantly when you go beyond the 60k threshold.