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I am sorry Vish but when I have been explaining several times about the city region I assume you knew about the biggest expansion of Liverpool for 200 years. You obviously just see the team (which I can understand) but the team and the club (and hence the stadium) cannot be divorced from the future demographics of Liverpool and the region. I suggest you do some research on the city of your adopted football team and you will see in 10 to 15 years there will be plenty of people and plenty of wealth not just in Liverpool but the north west region of England which is the fastest growing and populating area outside of London. And England is one of the fastest growing economies in the European Union if not the fastest.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Box monkey I am pretty sure I read FSG said the stadium can't be expanded beyond 58k if it can could you explain how ?


I've already gone through all this with you before! They said they won't expand anfield further because of the high cost of moving the structure that holds the roof over the kop. That's not saying its impossible its saying that it wouldnt be cost efficient. But this option has to be more cost efficient than building a new stadium.

Also the road behind the kop could be moved and now that the hotel is being build the right to light issue has gone so a third tier could be built on the centenary. I know you will say this is all impossible and the views will be rubbish (just like the old toilet) but it is still more realistic than building a new stadium.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
I am sorry Vish but when I have been explaining several times about the city region I assume you knew about the biggest expansion of Liverpool for 200 years. You obviously just see the team (which I can understand) but the team and the club (and hence the stadium) cannot be divorced from the future demographics of Liverpool and the region. I suggest you do some research on the city of your adopted football team and you will see in 10 to 15 years there will be plenty of people and plenty of wealth not just in Liverpool but the north west region of England which is the fastest growing and populating area outside of London. And England is one of the fastest growing economies in the European Union if not the fastest.


Nobody is preventing us to move to a new bigger stadium in 15 years, I don't know why you want to invest crutial money now for seats that might be required in 15 years. We are not going to use more than 60k seats now by your own saying, so why should we just pay interest on it (probably 300m before the investment becomes useful). We better use that money to be successful as success will bring more revenue as United has been doing over the last 25 years.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Box monkey I am pretty sure I read FSG said the stadium can't be expanded beyond 58k if it can could you explain how ?


Doesn't need expansion anyway as population is hardly getting bigger in Liverpool and tge surroundings


You keep telling me I dont know what I am talking about

Eat that

http://www.mowbraygill.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Mann-Island-News.pdf

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And it's my car on the picture, but mine is of grey colour.

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Vish we are not going to redevelop anfield then build another stadium in 15 years that is utter nuts. More than ever now I believe we need to get it right first time and I hope now you have some appreciation of the huge growth in the north west and Liverpool in particular which obviously previously you were unaware of and that might have obscured your perception of what I was trying to get over


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
I am sorry Vish but when I have been explaining several times about the city region I assume you knew about the biggest expansion of Liverpool for 200 years. You obviously just see the team (which I can understand) but the team and the club (and hence the stadium) cannot be divorced from the future demographics of Liverpool and the region. I suggest you do some research on the city of your adopted football team and you will see in 10 to 15 years there will be plenty of people and plenty of wealth not just in Liverpool but the north west region of England which is the fastest growing and populating area outside of London. And England is one of the fastest growing economies in the European Union if not the fastest.


So are you now saying that ticket prices won't need to be reduced because there's more money in the area?

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Originally Posted By: boxmonkey
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Box monkey I am pretty sure I read FSG said the stadium can't be expanded beyond 58k if it can could you explain how ?


I've already gone through all this with you before! They said they won't expand anfield further because of the high cost of moving the structure that holds the roof over the kop. That's not saying its impossible its saying that it wouldnt be cost efficient. But this option has to be more cost efficient than building a new stadium.

Also the road behind the kop could be moved and now that the hotel is being build the right to light issue has gone so a third tier could be built on the centenary. I know you will say this is all impossible and the views will be rubbish (just like the old toilet) but it is still more realistic than building a new stadium.


I dont think those things are realistic and what you are forgetting is the Anfield area is being changed the council are not going to build new infrastructure and then move it again in a few years.


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Vish we are not going to redevelop anfield then build another stadium in 15 years that is utter nuts. More than ever now I believe we need to get it right first time and I hope now you have some appreciation of the huge growth in the north west and Liverpool in particular which obviously previously you were unaware of and that might have obscured your perception of what I was trying to get over


Why is it utter nuts? There could even be the possibility of further expansion as explained above. What you fail to understand is that we need money to rekindle success, this is the priority.

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It has to be more realistic than building a new stadium in the park next door and having to rebuild the city infrastructure and roads (because that's what you need to do if you exceed 60k) just to gain an extra 5k seats. Then maybe paying another £150m in 10 years to expand again.

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And you say it's not realistic for us to do it but you say chelsea could.

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