KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum What have FSG brought to the table ?

We can do it for £150m but at the expense of the long term future of the club that is not acceptable it's crazy to put the next few years ahead of the clubs future.

I also don't accept that just because we have an extra £15m to £20m a year it will guarantee success it won't. Arsenal were forced to adopt a more careful transfer policy and probably had less to spend than Liverpool but they consistently finished higher than us yes they did not win anything but that's the football roll of the dice.

And sponsors in future will not want to know Liverpool with a poor ground they want birth impressive stadia and success not one or the other

The longer the term the higher the interest because the risks are higher. I don't even think financial institutions will lend that kind of money in the football industry where the bubble might burst rather sooner than later as you said yourself else H&G would have done it as they had no problems to put all the debt on the club. Best decision FSG could have taken regarding the stadium was to get to around 60k at 150m.

I dunno, Dortmund, Juve, athletico Madrid, Benfica ...they dont seem to je having trouble with sponsors....how big are their stadiums

The club having the biggest genuine sponsor revenue is United and you said it yourself, the stadium is crap as you hardly see the pitch from a number of seats. You are again talking nonsense and contradicting yourself. Sponsors are after success and you don't even know how the refurbished stadium is going to look like.

Stan, you insist FSG are trying to just invest low and turn a profit but any sane man will tell you, the club would be worth far far more with a new stadium and the profits for FSG would be much higher. So your theory of them penny punching to make a quick buck are null and void.

They are here for the long term i believe...and are making rational business decisions.

P.S. you sound an awful lot like those fans you used to blast and call accountants instead of fans. Have a bevvy and relax, we are moving in the right direction.

United stadium is poor from a spectators point of view but from the outside looks mighty impressive I was looking at it last week from the Lowry centre all lit up if I was a sponsor looking to promote my brand I know which club I would choose. At the end of the day what you people are arguing for is long term Liverpool will be behind our rivals for all time.

I cannot accept that

You do realise sponsors don't look at the outside of a stadium to judge on who they sponsor? They sponsor successful teams with a global brand

Having an extra 30000 spectators will offer very little in terms of value to a sponsor

With your plan we will be even further behind as we will lose all competitiveness for at least the next 10 years which would mean less fans worldwide, less sponsorship deals, less competition/tv rights money. We might never recover. In addition, in your calculation you have missed the investment required to further expand fron 60k in 10 years time.

All the top clubs real United barca all have top stadia city and Chelsea will be joining them you must look long term and the overall picture not selecting isolated points. Generally they follow success and marketing potential