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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Back to the original question what have FSG brought to the table if all they have done is build a cheap option financed on a short term payback by fans with FSG not laying out any capital then surely moores or gillet and hicks could have done the same ?

So could I for that matter
go build your own stadium and you can marvel at it then, you don't need to watch the game, right?

It's all about the stadium.

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No its not all about the stadium Elliot and a good job too as we aint getting one from FSG

FSG long term destroyers of LFC


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
No its not all about the stadium Elliot and a good job too as we aint getting one from FSG

FSG long term destroyers of LFC


Enjoy your stadium, stupid of you to suggest thats all that matters.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
No its not all about the stadium Elliot and a good job too as we aint getting one from FSG

FSG long term destroyers of LFC


In your opinion of course...

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Vish it's not about winning the game or seeing a stadium or long or short term it's about all them and more.

The clubs stadium us very important to our future and saving money in the short term will destroy the club for the long term as a serious force. That's not saving money and I don't accept we can't compete in the champions league the money the new build over the long term will be insignificant.

And another thing

Thing of the physiological impact on the players and fans knowing we are competing with the best and in the future how many top players won't want to come to LFC because we have sold ourselves short long term.

In business there is no such thing as saving money just saving value


Nonsense, in any business you would invest according to the cash flows you can generate, this is what you analyse to have a business case. You want everything, whether feasible or not, and you want FSG to take a decision that has no business sense only because you want it. Very happy you are just a minority.

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FSG brought doughnuts to the table. Everybody likes a good doughnut.


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FSG brought doughnuts to the table. Everybody likes a good doughnut.


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Originally Posted By: vish LFC
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Vish it's not about winning the game or seeing a stadium or long or short term it's about all them and more.

The clubs stadium us very important to our future and saving money in the short term will destroy the club for the long term as a serious force. That's not saving money and I don't accept we can't compete in the champions league the money the new build over the long term will be insignificant.

And another thing

Thing of the physiological impact on the players and fans knowing we are competing with the best and in the future how many top players won't want to come to LFC because we have sold ourselves short long term.

In business there is no such thing as saving money just saving value


Nonsense, in any business you would invest according to the cash flows you can generate, this is what you analyse to have a business case. You want everything, whether feasible or not, and you want FSG to take a decision that has no business sense only because you want it. Very happy you are just a minority.


A business case you invest according to the cash flows you can generate what's your next lecture vish the sun can shine in the sky ? I spent 10 years in investment portfolios for a global company I have produced and reviewed a fair few business cases and change programmes in my time, What I cannot grasp with FSG's analysis is why payback is over such a short timescale for strategic infrastructure like a stadium which you build up to 100 year horizons, I also think vish you have no appreciation of the economic landscape in the Mersey region and the developments both in Liverpool and Manchester and the stadium development must be considered in the light of these


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Originally Posted By: vish LFC
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Vish it's not about winning the game or seeing a stadium or long or short term it's about all them and more.

The clubs stadium us very important to our future and saving money in the short term will destroy the club for the long term as a serious force. That's not saving money and I don't accept we can't compete in the champions league the money the new build over the long term will be insignificant.

And another thing

Thing of the physiological impact on the players and fans knowing we are competing with the best and in the future how many top players won't want to come to LFC because we have sold ourselves short long term.

In business there is no such thing as saving money just saving value


Nonsense, in any business you would invest according to the cash flows you can generate, this is what you analyse to have a business case. You want everything, whether feasible or not, and you want FSG to take a decision that has no business sense only because you want it. Very happy you are just a minority.


A business case you invest according to the cash flows you can generate what's your next lecture vish the sun can shine in the sky ? I spent 10 years in investment portfolios for a global company I have produced and reviewed a fair few business cases and change programmes in my time, What I cannot grasp with FSG's analysis is why payback is over such a short timescale for strategic infrastructure like a stadium which you build up to 100 year horizons, I also think vish you have no appreciation of the economic landscape in the Mersey region and the developments both in Liverpool and Manchester and the stadium development must be considered in the light of these


We know where a lot of investment portfolios end up after that a bubble bursts. If our cash flows cannot fund capital and interest repayment (whatever the time line) and investment in players, I don't know where you find the money, you should have a look at our financial results over the last few years and the negative equity in our balance sheet. May be you have a better idea as an accountant, it's not about creative accounting but hard cash flows

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