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Originally Posted By: Maxi88
For me personally when I'm in a stadium, it's the memories created in that stadium that matter most to me and what I'd think about, not the stadium itself


I have had some great memories watching Chorley Town. Does not change my argument Liverpool are one of the top clubs in the world and deserve a stadium to match.


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its not an argument. Its your opinion. In my opinion the stadium is not why I would go to a Liverpool match

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Originally Posted By: Maxi88
its not an argument. Its your opinion. In my opinion the stadium is not why I would go to a Liverpool match


There are a number of reasons you watch a football match the game social the atmosphere and the stadium is the hub. I once worked in Madrid and went to watch Real Madrid a few times I will always remember the stadium I can't even remember the score of the games. If your argument is maxi Liverpool, FC don't need a top stadium then I am afraid I can't agree with you


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Your argument about this is completely subjective and has no basis in facts whatsoever. I have told you my opinion on it which you seem to dismiss because you view it a different way.

My argument is not that Liverpool don't need a top stadium. My argument is I would be very happy with a revamped anfield as that is the most realistic project as I see it.

Burdening the club with debt for a new stadium which in an immediate sense offers no extra revenue but far more cost does not seem very viable to me. Your belief that ticket prices will fall in the future only makes the revamped anfield option a far better proposition in my opinion

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Originally Posted By: Maxi88
Your argument about this is completely subjective and has no basis in facts whatsoever. I have told you my opinion on it which you seem to dismiss because you view it a different way.

My argument is not that Liverpool don't need a top stadium. My argument is I would be very happy with a revamped anfield as that is the most realistic project as I see it.

Burdening the club with debt for a new stadium which in an immediate sense offers no extra revenue but far more cost does not seem very viable to me. Your belief that ticket prices will fall in the future only makes the revamped anfield option a far better proposition in my opinion


Most debate is subjective unless you want to bombard each other with statistics. Having a revamped anfield forever limited to 58k when our main rival already has 75k is £150m wasted to me money completely thrown down the drain we might as well set fire to it. A build over the long term would be easily affordable but FSG don't want to extend themselves and seem to be gearing up for a swift exit in a year or two leaving the club forever in the wake of our rivals. A tragedy


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Telling someone else that they go to a match for the same reason as you when they've already told you is not much of a debate either

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Vish I am sorry I am not buying that you would come all the way from Mauritius to watch a 90 minute game of football. I am sorry I don't believe you

People come to see the team yes but the colour the crowds and yes the stadium huge impressive stands looming up I remember when I first went to the millennium stadium my jaw dropped literally.

Football is far more than watching a match

I am speechless


You don't believe me? So you are saying I am lying? You are mad, sorry. There is no need to discuss with you, poor guy.

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I am not saying you are lying vish don't be so dramatic what I am saying is an impressive stadium is part of the package for oversea voters and locals alike. You said you travelled from Mauritius and was indifferent to the stadium the match being the only matter of interest as a football fan I find that very hard to believe. I have been to lots of stadiums here in England and in Europe I always look at the stadium and judge the club on the quality of it. I am sure I am not the only person who does this. Going to a football game us a mixture of many things the game is but one, watching on TV then it's only the game that's of interest.

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I have a mate who appreciates bridges. You might be in that same mould Stan.

Obsessed with bridges, and Bridget Fonda.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
I am not saying you are lying vish don't be so dramatic what I am saying is an impressive stadium is part of the package for oversea voters and locals alike. You said you travelled from Mauritius and was indifferent to the stadium the match being the only matter of interest as a football fan I find that very hard to believe. I have been to lots of stadiums here in England and in Europe I always look at the stadium and judge the club on the quality of it. I am sure I am not the only person who does this. Going to a football game us a mixture of many things the game is but one, watching on TV then it's only the game that's of interest.


I said that what would matter most to me is a win and would be very unhappy to lose even in a wow stadium. I travelled to Liverpool last November and over the 2 weekends I was in UK, there was only one LFC game and at Goodison Park. Not caring about the stadium, I wanted to watch LFC and wanted a win. What you don't seem to understand is that success on the pitch is much more important than a brand new stadium right now, we also need additional seats and the most cost effective way to get there would be the best.

You are focusing on the long term by forgetting about the short term completely which is still very fragile if not bleak. You have your opinion in your own right, though I am sure you are a minority and IMO you are wrong. Going the Arsenal way would mean doom and gloom as there are more teams competing for CL now, we'll just end up as a mid table team for the foreseeable future and will never need a big stadium. We need to get in a virtuous circle through results on the pitch and around 60k seater at the most cost effective option, only this will allow us to grow.

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