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more if we go with the flying stadium idea.

and I hope we do go with a flying stadium...thene we could fly it between Stanley Park and Speke and occasionally play above Anfield.

Not sure you can borrow over 30-50 years with our balance sheet which is in negative equity mind you and lending institutions being too careful these days. Even if we could, that would probably mean 20-25m in interest and capital repayment. For a club that has been losing money for the last few years and just going to make money now, if 20-25m is some additional expense, even with naming rights, we will struggle and probably become a selling club as Arsenal have been while they were paying for the Emirates. That would then mean no CL and less EPL money, probably less ticket sales, thus less revenues.

We will have a very nice looking, brand new stadium but probably in the middle of the table with no need to expand further. Your plan is completely flawed in my books, trying to sort the long term but putting a bullet in the short term. What you don't seem to understand is that if the short term is not sorted, the long term will be crap. Do the maths as an accountant and let me know if you see anything better.

Now if you want a gift of 400m from FSG, that's another matter and I don't know who would give such a gift to LFC.

Pointless question! You won't a coherent response

You cannot prepare for the long or short term you have to do both. And buying better players at the expense of the long term future of the club is no strategy. And as we saw with the glorious king kenny you can throw money away on players. I am pretty sure Liverpool FC could borrow over 40 years irrespective of the balance sheet and might ber able to do something in arrangement with the Liverpool city region. We are building this stadoum for generations ahead do we want vistors to go wow ! or do we want them to say ah yes a cood compromise in 2015 the owners then did not have enough money and it was built like that ?

I dont have all the answers thats the owners job but as a fan I want Liverpool to be back where we were in the 80's at the top of british football but with a top stadoum more or less where our local rivals are now.

It seems that too much to ask from the FSG crew

You don't have all the answers but you just want it. I am sure FSG have done the maths just as they did when they introduced the tiered ticket prices last season, remember, you said tickets won't be sold and you were wrong. A new stadium will cost 20-25 m every year in interest and capital repayment and unless tickets prices are significantly increased there is no business case and yes it is too much to ask

I might have said the tickets would not be sold and they are not the ground is selling out but less people are attending overall Liverpool games same with Man United, There are no links to this vish just my observations from the north west of England where I live now and have lived all my life. The reason Liverpool always sell out is our low capacity but it will be interesting to see if we sell out in the group games of the champions league. In terms of the ground I state what I want which is to compete with our rivals you state what is possible within the constraints of FSG,s wallet.

If you think we will struggle to sell out a stadium at 58000, we wouldn't gain the additional revenue necessary to cover interest repayments if we built from scratch? It would be business suicide in that case to forge ahead with a new stadium

As I said before I think football will change it has to the over priced tickets £56 heading to £100 will never work it's a declining pool of customers. Clubs who are not ready for that change will be forever high and dry.

So I would build 65k with an option in the design to go higher say to 90k

Cutting the ticket prices in half while trying to finance a new build doesn't make sense either? With a 90000 stadium with tickets at half the price, you'd earn the same revenue as now give or take the difference in corporate seating with far higher build costs, interest payments, operational expenses. It doesn't make sense