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Other than Vish no one ever properly answers the points I make just attacks me as being negative. Its an interesting way to debate that difference of opinion ? no problem stick the label negative on, job done. Failing that throw insults,

Whereas why do you think I argue against the current strategy ? because I personally dislike John Henry ? I have never met the man. I fel the way I do because I always saw LFC as being the top club in british football (I grew up with that)now we have to accept second best for all time as we will if we dont have infrastruture to match our rivals. I would say its negative to support that strategy personally.

As Vish describes it FSG are the best of the rest e.g not the best thats probably accurate but I cannot and will not ever accept second or third rate owners for LFC. We are the top club in british football for me and always will be.

I have always answered your points and you claimed I was insulting you. You have never pointed out how I insulted you? You on the other hand respond with the same stock answer, "anyone could have done it"

It's a nice thought saying we're the top club in British football, but, unfortunately, it's simply not true anymore.

No its not but why cant we be again? Thats why I wanted owners with the muscle to catch up on the wasted 25 years. We never got it we got "the best of the rest"

Oil money or nothing eh?

Wow, and you had a go at me calling you a spoiled brat

I can understand your views on it, Stan. Obviously the best option, moving forward, would be for a brand spanking new Stadium which would rival/better Old Trafford, but it just isn't realistic - not with the owners we have.

Comparisons have been made with Arsenal - I think that it would be a much harder task for us to do similar, the landscape has changed. Paying off the debt for a new Stadium would be very dependant on staying in the CL, we now have 7 quality teams that will be pushing for Top 4, this wasn't the case for Arsenal and Wenger did brilliantly to not drop out of it, with only 5 teams realistically challenging for 4 spots. There is less risk involved with the option FSG have chosen.

We can become the best again, but that will take time and success on the pitch. There was a time when all fans cared about was what happened on the pitch, sadly that is no longer the case.

What you want cannot always be a reality, unfortunately in this case.

Good post Elliot it's because of the challenges you articulate that I felt we needed owners with more muscule who could look more to the long term and take more of a business risk.

As for what business the owner is from as mr donut wants to pick and choose from well that really is narrowing our options to an extraordinary degree. Incidently mr Henry is a banker are we happy with that ?

Stan, the way i see it is, there are no oil Barons lininng up to buy the club. The current owners are doing a good Job with the club. Screaming "bloodY murder" is simoly counter productive at the moment. Getting FSG to put the club up for sale now does not in any way guarantee we will get a sheikh owner. We might end up with another Hicks and Gillett. The club really needs some stability, in all departments, managerial and ownership.

Until FSG do something horribly wrong, and there are no indications of that IMO, and we are performing on and off the pitch, i see no reason to call for them to go.


There is my explanation with reasoning, for a millionth time. Perhaps you could refrain from saying we dont explain our views when in reality you bave recieved explanations from eaxh and every one of us. Granted, this is a simplified version, but right now i dont have the time for an extensive post going into detail. But i jave put thaz down in the past too.

Anyway, i am not insulting you but i have had to endure all sorts from many, including witty jabs from yourself about the fact that i am unable to attend every game. I dont mind, my dont make personal and dont fool yourself into believing that because you are a semi retired CA who has been lucky enough to go to games regularly, you are more passionate or more knowledgeable on LFC. You might well be, i am not saying you arent, but believe you me, i also want what is best for the club and fans.

Coincidentally, 20% of the worlds richest people are investment bankers, according to Forbes. Surely you don't expect a fishmonger to have the financial capability to buy a club of Liverpool's stature.

I see nothing wrong in the fact he is a banker. He could be darth Vader for all i care, if the club is making forward strides.