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No I have no financed any football stadiums Mr Donut is this koptalk or the people who have financed football stadia forum. I am sure financing a football stadium is no different to a car plant or warehousing complex. I will tell you what though Donut if I was advising John Henry personally I would advise him to do excatly what he is doing boost the brand spend the minimum possible and sell when the price is right.

Job Done $$$$$$$$$

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Still you are happy Mr Donut so some good has come of it.


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Originally Posted By: boxmonkey
Arsenal made a ton of money from building apartments on the old ground. Anyway what sort of interest would a £400m loan spread over 40 years look like? And would we be able to stay competitive with united over those 40 years?



Interest rates are the lowest they have ever been in the history of the developed world although that might not last forever. But to answer your question its a gamble business and commerce is a gample every factory every shopping mall every office complex is a gamble. A football stadia is no different


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I will gladly put my hands up if wrong Stan but wasn't it made clear more than once Arsenal slipped to not winning anything as they had nothing for players for 9 years as they had to pay back the expenditure on a 60k stadium? It was arguably only because of Wengers talent that they didn't slip into oblivion.

Be interesting for someone to put up a poll asking how many of us would be prepared to see a busking hat passed out for nearly a decade while a 60k stadium at £400 million is paid down? I am speculating but wouldn't 75-80k cost £500-£550 million?

It just seems way out of touch without the team being Jeopardized.



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Many people are assuming a cheaper stadia option would be more spent on the team. It might simply be more profit for John Hentry when he sells on. But yes there will be more financial risk with a new build but personally I think its worth it. I would build 65k with option to go to 90k within the design we would be sorted then for next 100 years.


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So you would pay and extra £250m for 6k extra seats. That's an extra £41k a seat.

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That's insane.


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Originally Posted By: Ninja Skrtel
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I am sorry you feel that way guys, but that's really no the way i see it. I prefer to see it as us finally deciding to take the "smart" option. I think a new stadium would have been too much of a burden on the club.

I don’t agree, the finance coming into football is increasing all the time, that and the extra seating income from a 75’000 seater would pay for itself over time. If you can’t face commercial risk and reward investment, then one has no future in a competitive business market, particularly todays football market place.
. But all the studies show that the extra income would not be that great unless we saw a drastic increase in ticket prices. And whilst the money coming into football is increasing, so to are the expenses. 20 years ago a wage of 300 thousand pounds was unthinkable. But look at today's wages.

There’s a lot of infrastructural developments being funded all over the world by way of long term financing, many of them with less cash flow income than what is being generated by football. It’s more a case of will to do it than can it be done, of course it can be done, if the will was there, but it isn’t, with FSG it appears that financial cowardice rules ok

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Originally Posted By: Ninja Skrtel
That's insane.


it is if it were true simply dividing the gross cost by seat and assumning it must be cost recovered immediately is whats nuts

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
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That's insane.


it is if it were true simply dividing the gross cost by seat and assumning it must be cost recovered immediately is whats nuts

Not to mention the opportunity benefit of being able to expand and stay abreast of our competitors, rather than hoisting the lily-livered white flag of surrender to the United’s of the world.

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Many people are assuming a cheaper stadia option would be more spent on the team. It might simply be more profit for John Hentry when he sells on. But yes there will be more financial risk with a new build but personally I think its worth it. I would build 65k with option to go to 90k within the design we would be sorted then for next 100 years.


You think it's worth it because it will not be your money at risk. whistle . Also if not enough cash flow is generated we can end up in bankruptcy.

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