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Stan, unless you can point to an area that is feasible locally that will hold 80,000 or more I see little you can moan about in regard the stadium. It's been shown a number of times how ridiculous the cost of a poxy 15,000 extra seats would have been and now in a year or two we will be at that level bar splitting hairs having spent 1/3rd of it. There has been nothing on the commercial side to suggest not moving is having a disastrous balance sheet effect on the club. Even Arsenal only hold 60,000.

I am neither singing their praises or trying to chastise them too harshly but there are a number of fans who are quite happy staying put (me being one) even though 'the views' could be better in parts.

I will say though I see nothing wrong with these discussions on the custodians of our club and those who would prefer to use blinkers can CHOOSE not to post rather than posting inflammatory cheap-shots at you personally.

With FFP starting to bite the playing field is levelling to a point and we may also see a time where a certain amount of profits at a club do enough and it becomes more manager quality than anything else that counts. On that front I remain very optimistic and think we have enough to compete with the big boys already.

Fair enough top 4 my ultimate would have been to have gone to Speke rail, road, airport and vast space but it was not to be. Second redevelop on stanley park I dont accept the marginal 15000 seats argument there would be wider long term benefits such as future capacity indrastructure. Anfield is in the wrong place and designed hotch potch overlaying it will be poor.

But we are where we are these are the owners we have got. But its an internet forum and I dont have to like this siatuation so I will say so. As for the personal insults I love it once they do that they have lost the argument as anyone with any sense knows.

Where are the insults though? You accused me of insulting you and I asked you and you never gave me an answer?

The nice comment???

You attack me everytime you criticize my football club with your nice comments.
There's constructive criticism, then there's just trolling.

You might not realize this, but you are quickly morphing into a coolflames type poster - the only thing lacking is the "small club" comments. Seriously.

What's going on Stan?

Stan still stuck in dream land I see! You keep dreaming of the sugar daddy stan and you'll only ever be disappointed, it's never going to happen.

I cant really comment on the past 30 years as i have only been around for 24 of them and aware of football for about 16 of them!

however i would again argue that our stadia has little influence on our on the field activities, under Rafa we came very close in the first few years, and were able to spend big and compete for signing with the stadium we have now.

Rafa also managed it during a time the club was being managed VERY poorly.

Even BR has had a fair bit of cash to throw around, did someone mention we have the 3rd highest net spend of teams? and this is again with the stadium we have, add champions league revenue to that and i dont see where we are failing to compete with other clubs?

so where are we failing where other teams are succeeding in that sense? again City and Chelsea yes, but thats no longer a fair comparison due to FFP

I cant remember the figure but manchester united have x million more than us every game. It must make a difference

But apart from the financial aspects its the prestige

San Siro ?

Anfield ?

In not many more years city and united will have huge stadia (they are not doing it for no reason) and we will be stuck with a small repaired ground.

Depressing

San Siro is a ground share.... Which would have been my preffered option.

60k does sound pretty depressing.

We should scrap the revamp and just wait as long as it takes for an owner with proper deep pockets to come in an fund a new stadium.

We've waited this long, what's another 10, 20 or 30 years?

also the clubs dont own the san siro, its owned by the council or whatever the italians call it.