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Thanks for clearing that up...so basically, it's more of an esthetic thing and not structural... It can be either or and/or both. By the way Ninja that analysis from Henry you posted above is interesting but it’s all about the financial side of the equation, but you know "man cannot live by bread alone”. There’s more to a football club than finance, there’s the belonging, the pride, the social, the self image and respect. Take a look at all the iconic buildings in the great cities of Europe and some near where you live also, and you’ll see they weren’t built with financial considerations uppermost. same goes for the worlds greatest art works and literature... Man does not live by bread alone. This cheap refurbishment will define us for a generation. . I agree completely which is exactly why i think that staying at the historic, iconic Anfield is the best option. You cant replace history and tradition.
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Is it a co-incidence the traditional option is the cheapest ?
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Is it a co-incidence the traditional option is the cheapest ? No it's not a coincidence as it is all about financial sustainability. A simple question SP, would you pay 50% more in a brand new stadium? If the majority of match going fans would, then yes definitely it would make sense to go for a new one, otherwise it doesn't.
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In fifteen years what would the stadia capacity be at old toilet, gooners, city, etc I heard old t will be 95 k it was mentioned on hear before. can gooners and city increase their capacity ? Are spurs building ? Can LFC increase theirs ? Sound of crickets and owls in the night I'm glad we are doing something rather than nothing ! but we will still be in the same position as now in fifteen years capacity wise, so it's a short term fix why have they gone for a short term fix if they are in it for the long haul ? Good on em for trying though More seats means more revenue but doesn't mean more gross profit or available cash, the cost per seat is as important. Spurs are going to build a new stadium but doesn't mean that they will have more money available for transfers and players for the next decade (remember Arsenal and Emirates). Can United really increase to 90k seats in their current stadium, I am not sure. In any case, if the demand is there, a new stadium can still be built in 10 years, overcapacity will just kill the club right now unless ticket prices are doubled, which is not an option. Why is this so difficult to understand?
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No it's not. We haven't amputated the Stadium, we're building on it. That's the opposite of amputation, it's augmentation. If you'd like it to be bigger, fine, but it's the only progress that's been made on this front for years. so its a boob job Exactly!
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Or it could be less. And we could be in a position where champion's league football is more of a certainty every year, where money isn't an issue, and it won't be as difficult to make that kind of expenditure. Meanwhile, we are at least addressing the problem to some degree.
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It is, but it appears that this is just stage 1. There will be other extensions as well, which would leave us with a venue nearly the size of Arsenal's.
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Its great that its finally happening after all these years. And the best option by far is the one finally picked to be staying in anfield is great. +1 The be all & end all as far as I'm concerned, couldn't be happier.
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Firstly, we wont be in the same position as now in 15 years time, we will have 15k seats more. Secondly, none of us know which way the game is heading. Its possible that in 15 years we will be watching from home with virtual reality headsets which create the impression you are at the game...we don't know. We don't need a 90k stadium now and it would be silly to go down that route IMO. Also sixties, as you have said yourself, the only place where united extending OT to 90k has been mentioned is on here. There is no evidence of that as far as i am aware. What SP says is not gospel and as far as i am aware he is the one who started this OT to 90k seats story. I could be wrong, but is there any credible evidence they plan on doing this?
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This is an article taken from the telegraph regarding the expansion of OT.
As Old Trafford prepares for its next hundred years, the irony for a club formed as an offshoot of the Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway Company is that the stadium’s future growth is constricted by the very tracks from which Manchester United grew into the institution it is today.
Since the completion of the £42 million north and north-west quadrants in 2006 that increased the capacity at Old Trafford beyond the 76,000 mark and added 10 new restaurants back, further expansion of the stadium has been placed on hold.
Sir Alex Ferguson, the Manchester United manager, has spoken regularly of his desire to see the capacity taken beyond 90,000, proposing the enlargement of the south-east and south-west quadrants as the logical move towards that goal.
But for Old Trafford to surpass San Siro, the council-owned ground shared by the two Milanese clubs, and Santiago Bernabéu, the home of Real Madrid, in terms of sheer size, United would have to take a deep breath and meet the huge financial commitment of building over the railway line that runs behind the stadium’s main stand which has been untouched since 1975.
While not dismissed out of hand, the prospect of such a development being undertaken in the current financial climate appears highly unlikely.
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