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Pack it in you two

Believe it or not there is a world outside URL links

I think it's called the real world

There may be one but I can't think of a single stadia that has been redeveloped that is as good as a purpose built stadium old Trafford is awful as you would know if you ever went in the north stand.

Also £60k (phase 2) is pretty much the limit not good enough for a club of Liverpool's stature

Probably right Stan but nevertheless the whole regeneration project is a suitable compromise. Anfield is more than two stadiums, the bigger picture looks good for the area as it looks to attach itself back to the city. New stadia can be also terrible, reebok and riverside for example, placed in no mans land with no soul. Jees Istanbul attaturk was the worts new build eve seen, so much so galatasary moved out after one season.

The pubs and food outlets deserve the revamp as well, a lot of good could come out of this. Joe Anderson could leave a fantastic legacy on the forgotten part of the city

I agree out of town stadia like you have said Cp can be soulless but cities ground is pretty good and although I have not been I understand arsenals is good too

It's the seating position

Incidently I have brilliant seats in the middle of the lower centenary bang on the halfway line so for me personally better they redevelop

But not for the club in my view

That's the whole point SP, Old Trafford being awful but United being the club with the highest revenue, it's results/competitiveness on the field that's the most important. As we cannot have it both, I prefer to have a better team than a better stadium. Would you prefer to have a new top class stadium but having to pay twice the price for the ticket and not being able to buy top players?

Personally i'd like an owner that has the means to do both,but maybe i just want too much.

Who wouldn't, but we don't and there are none lining up to take over.

So you're saying we're doomed then Vish?

Something that never gets a mention is the boxes. This new stand will effectively increase corporate revenue by 3.

No, I am saying a redevelopment is good enough to be able to afford to stay competitive. Our objective was always 60k seats, if we get that even if not in a brand new stadium, but we are able to compete for players (unlike Arse with Emirates), I would be satisfied. I don't understand all the fuss about a new stadium with about the same capacity, we are not in the business of have the most beautiful stadium.