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Doesn't matter what you call them but they have to be able to compete and deal with the messi's ronaldo's etc etc call them star players or quality players but we will need them if we want to be competitive in the CL or we could be back out of the comp as quick as we get in ,if we can get that type of proven player for 10 to 12 mil great but I can't see it !
we have to be in for players in the 18 to 25 mil bracket , can't see the point of qualifying only to be knocked out early ?
Plus I believe we are likely to be put in with seeded teams so it won't be a walk in the park and the extra travel and games will take it's toll as it does on all teams that we know for sure ! so quality in depth will be needed in my opinion Compete with Ronaldo and Messi? I wonder how many players really can, are available and within our means. We are not yet in the CL and some wants us to win it already...I would say one step at a time, again.
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I agree. If (and we more than likely will) come in the top 4 this season, I would happily take finishing 2nd or 3rd in a group next year and consolidate in the league again and would consider it a good season. We will need at least 2 or 3 years in a row in the CL before we are competitive
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Doesn't matter what you call them but they have to be able to compete and deal with the messi's ronaldo's etc etc call them star players or quality players but we will need them if we want to be competitive in the CL or we could be back out of the comp as quick as we get in ,if we can get that type of proven player for 10 to 12 mil great but I can't see it !
we have to be in for players in the 18 to 25 mil bracket , can't see the point of qualifying only to be knocked out early ?
Plus I believe we are likely to be put in with seeded teams so it won't be a walk in the park and the extra travel and games will take it's toll as it does on all teams that we know for sure ! so quality in depth will be needed in my opinion Agreed Maxi, we need some quality additions where we have obvious weaknesses, and I would say we need that whether or not we qualify for the CL. As we all know proven quality costs, though not as much as buying an ass load of overpriced "prospects” , as can be seen from what we’ve got from 100m spend on prospects so far. So let there be no more smoke and mirrors around signing up Rodgers 1st choice recruits in the summer, and no more so called “bargain” basement prospects to be loaned out, or to sit on the bench.
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We need stars but not "superstars" that could disrupt the work ethic of the team where I think BR has been most successful. I say let's go do some shopping in Germany as German players will always do an honest job and the ones who were with us -Marcus Babel, Didi Hamann- had done a good job. Even Karl Heinz Riedle who joined LFC in the twilight of his career had done a decent job as an LFC player.
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I agree. If (and we more than likely will) come in the top 4 this season, I would happily take finishing 2nd or 3rd in a group next year and consolidate in the league again and would consider it a good season. We will need at least 2 or 3 years in a row in the CL before we are competitive Agreed. Last 16 of CL would be ace, and not out of the question if we finish 2nd in the group. We've convincingly beaten United and Arsenal (both CL regulars), as well as Spurs and Everton (both in consideration for CL this year) this season so I don't see why we couldn't have a go at Galatasaray, Olympiakos etc. next year though! Hell, Chelsea won the damn thing playing very badly! Imagine if we.... {mind blown}
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i think we need a few more stars (hard working ones and not lazy [oops] that think they have made it so they think the whole team should do all the running around for them). if we sign two top quality and proven players that can have a massive effect on and off the field. say we spent 35m and bought coasta that would send out a message to the players that the club is going places and make them want to stay here and fight for there places. coaster would help sell more shirts and help attract bigger sponsorship deals
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Under 23 Player
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Doesn't matter what you call them but they have to be able to compete and deal with the messi's ronaldo's etc etc call them star players or quality players but we will need them if we want to be competitive in the CL or we could be back out of the comp as quick as we get in ,if we can get that type of proven player for 10 to 12 mil great but I can't see it !
we have to be in for players in the 18 to 25 mil bracket , can't see the point of qualifying only to be knocked out early ?
Plus I believe we are likely to be put in with seeded teams so it won't be a walk in the park and the extra travel and games will take it's toll as it does on all teams that we know for sure ! so quality in depth will be needed in my opinion Not possible to sign these players due to FFP, we just do not generate enough income to be able to compete. It's not about FSG either, we have had to slash the wage bill and increase income in order to get ourselves where we are. Remember out books from 2012/13 season clearly show that we are 50mil in the red. Wild spending now will ensure we are not allowed in the champs league. My idea would be a semi modest spend of 25mil plus sales.
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As in Henderson and Allen who do a mountain of work when we don't have the ball? Henderson has improved no end and provided a good number of assists as well this season. They have not been carried by any stretch of the imagination?
Maxi88 did i mention specific players?
But you are half right, I think Henderson is the most useless footballer i have ever seen in a Liverpool shirt. He is the Forest Gump of LFC. Cant stand on the ball, cant dribble, cant turn, his preferred objective is to get rid of the ball as soon as he receives it, mostly back to the player who gave the ball to him or to pass it backwards, because he has no skill at all.
But Joe Allen is quite good. He can do most of the above. I think Joe is a winner indeed and he will grow to be a liverpool legend.
Coutinho on the other hand will not evolve into a Liverpool great. He isn't up to the standards we expect. I would play Joe Allen before Coutinho every day of the week. Joe has ten times more football brains.
hmmmm, yea.
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As in Henderson and Allen who do a mountain of work when we don't have the ball? Henderson has improved no end and provided a good number of assists as well this season. They have not been carried by any stretch of the imagination?
Maxi88 did i mention specific players?
But you are half right, I think Henderson is the most useless footballer i have ever seen in a Liverpool shirt. He is the Forest Gump of LFC. Cant stand on the ball, cant dribble, cant turn, his preferred objective is to get rid of the ball as soon as he receives it, mostly back to the player who gave the ball to him or to pass it backwards, because he has no skill at all.
But Joe Allen is quite good. He can do most of the above. I think Joe is a winner indeed and he will grow to be a liverpool legend.
Coutinho on the other hand will not evolve into a Liverpool great. He isn't up to the standards we expect. I would play Joe Allen before Coutinho every day of the week. Joe has ten times more football brains.
hmmmm, yea.
Did you mention names? No. Did you say 2 men in the middle and from that I guessed who you were talking about. Not exactly rocket science chester. If you don't see any value in what Henderson brings to the team, thats your opinion. IMO he has become very important to how we play Coutinho is inconsistent but he does work hard and will be a good player to have but he won't become a great either imo hmmmm yea
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Mate i cringe every time Hendo has the ball and has time and space and you can see he has no idea. mmmm yea. Superstars or Hendo?
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