KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Are 'stars' really what we need ?

Looking through our team we appear to have very few. I also think it has aided the improvement of the collective group where everyone appears to have a great work ethos and be much more level headed than many teams and players where fortunes have been spent and or wasted.

Most appear of the mold that are hungry, young and with a massive point to prove. Sturridge in his statements and interviews appears to optimize this.

Allen, Henderson and Flanagan seem the type of player Rogers likes and do we really need to spend a fortune on the sorts of players fans like but are not necessarily what would be best for the club and team? You could argue we have a team that is a little throw back to better days and not pirates who will put in a shift only if they are continually pampered and shown ever bigger contracts.

Spurs has shown what can happen and I don't want to replicate that mess.

I could be wrong and that the highest talent comes with the negatives we all associate with the modern footballer, but interested what everyone else thinks as we look at the summer transfer window possibly as champions

It depends what you mean by stars. I'd class Gerrard, Suarezs etc as stars. What we need to do is make sure we get the right 'star' players, ones that are willing to put a shift in when needed. Get a couple of star players with the right mentality and we'll be a real force next season

I'd much prefer players to come and make their star name at LFC. Thats not all about signing youth, but about signing players that have lots of potential but havent yet reached their peak.

I would argue that Suarez, Sturridge, Torres, Alonso, Reina & Mascherano weren't stars before we signed them yet they were all well know players with talent and bags of potential whose stardom was started at LFC.

You also get far better value with these type of players so for me its about signing £10-£25m players and rather than spending £40m+ on one player

you could also argue that all those players were stars before we signed them. Torres definitely, Masch I think was captain of the Argies. Maybe all the other were just full of potential. But Suarez did cost approx 22m and I think the market has been inflated since then. Of course we need to buy young players that realise their potential but how many players have we been burned with that were bought for 7-15m. I would like us to push the boat out occasionally for a player if hes worth it. Dont think we need very high earning inflated ego type players but lets not rule ourselves out of a 30m player if he add something extra

We need the best suited players based on a budget of of at least 35m if we qualify for CL as we will get that revenue back. Definitely more will be better, but, FFP also needs to be followed

Not true imo- Torres only scored 14 goals the season before we bough him, Mascherano was at a club fighting relegation, Reina has never been a star player (GKs rarely are). Alonso was the biggest name we bought back then but he was still only captain of a very mediocre R.Sociedad side who finished 15th. Suarez was pretty close to being a star when we bought him, but still wasn't really a household name, hence why we got him for ~22m and not 30-40m.

We have a very good track record of improving players, but I do think we need to start buying star players. Big names usually have big impacts- Ozil, Hazard, Ageuro, even RvP in his first season. I think the difference now is that we have enough stars already in the squad that if we do buy a big name, all our hopes won't be lumped on them alone, they will be joining an already established team. We only really need 1, maybe 2 'big' names, I'd be happy with that and a couple 15-20m players. Those are the ones that will flourish under BR, those that have had a decent career so far but not quite pushed on to the next level with their current coach.

In the position we are in we are possibly pouring fuel onto the argument that FSG are likely to come up with. They will state how right they have been to cut the squad and the wage bill and still have a team that can challenge for the title. Irespective of what happens between now and the end of the season we have been challenging for at least top 4 all season.

What we need now is 6 players to push that to the next level. Some of these 6 may already be at the club but loaned out.

The type of player we need is one who will fit into that work ethic that is paying dividends now. So for me if a player wants to come and be part of that he will have to walk the walk. His agent will have to accept that perhaps he wont get a massive salary like Rooney nor will he get anything like what Suarez gets....... until he proves himself here.

I wouldn't want to be spending £40m on the next Ozil type flop. Or £25m on a Fellaini type flop. There are some bargains out there and players with a lot of ability that could do a job. No wonder people talk abargainsmy as he would be the sort to come in at the right price and help take us and himself to the next level.

I think we are going to see some incredible bargains coming in this summer without having to sign Bertiebigbollox. The right players will come and if they want to sign for City or Chelsea and not even make the bench then let them. If Konoplyanka wants to go to Spurs then let him. Man U will not attract players other than mercenaries so some of their targets may choose to stay at various Portuguese and French clubs who have CL football.

The CL lure is going to be big. We must make sure though that we don't put too much more bait on the hook.

A team "in form" often carries the average players. And that is the current case. If we had a better squad, i can think of two players in play in the middle who can not score goals and often lose posession who would not be regular starters if we had a couple of star players in their stead.

As in Henderson and Allen who do a mountain of work when we don't have the ball? Henderson has improved no end and provided a good number of assists as well this season. They have not been carried by any stretch of the imagination