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Anyway, that wasn't my point. They were a team consistently in Europe 12 years ago; now they're mid table in the championship. Still a pretty dramatic fall from grace, no?
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They were in the champions league only the one year, but they were in Europe from 97-98 to 01-02, so that was five seasons. Also, 01-02 was the first year England had 4 spots. They were more or less at the same level we were at the time. But they were hardly a force. They didn't win anything and don't even remember if they went to some finals, what force were they, to qualify?
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I'd argue the same sort of force as Arsenal or Spurs, but again, not my point. Please see my previous post.
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Anyway, that wasn't my point. They were a team consistently in Europe 12 years ago; now they're mid table in the championship. Still a pretty dramatic fall from grace, no? they have had a big fall from grace but you siad they were a force, which they werent. i think you are making their fall from grace bigger then it was. they were at a stage where spurs are at the moment and the way you are making it out you would think they were the same as utd/chelsea
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I'd argue the same sort of force as Arsenal or Spurs, but again, not my point. Please see my previous post. Ok noted, this is what happens to clubs that have debt that they cannot service.
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I'd argue the same sort of force as Arsenal or Spurs, but again, not my point. Please see my previous post. Ok noted, this is what happens to clubs that have debt that they cannot service. lets hope the same thing happens to utd
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I'd argue the same sort of force as Arsenal or Spurs, but again, not my point. Please see my previous post. Ok noted, this is what happens to clubs that have debt that they cannot service. lets hope the same thing happens to utd Let's hope but they can service their debt with the kind of revenue they generate
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It happened to Rangers, and it nearly happened to us. Who knows?
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dont think anyone should wish utd to collapse as a club, where would the fun be in that? No more derby games? Come on think about what you wish for.
as for fans i hate, arsenal fans. Most overrated club in the world, not won anything for 10 years, never won a european cup,
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I don't want to see United relegated. I enjoy the derbies too much. But I'd love to see them ruined financially.
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