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Not sure if the problem is entire Agger and Skrtel's fault.
The way we are playing now is focusing on attack and leaving only SG to cover the backline. While I acknowledge the work he has done so far as a DM, he can only do so much with his age.
The amount of pressure our backline get nowadays is not healthy. The best defenders in the world will also be prone to errors under such pressure.
Not sure if you guys agree on this.
Unfortunately, BR like this attacking style which to me is good to see but we have to every time out score the opponents to win (like our last game with Swansea). It will give me a heart attack if the next 11 games are like that. Totally agree with you, this is why I thought that buying a top DM was a priority in the last window, not another winger, and IMO it still is.
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Not sure if the problem is entire Agger and Skrtel's fault.
The way we are playing now is focusing on attack and leaving only SG to cover the backline. While I acknowledge the work he has done so far as a DM, he can only do so much with his age.
The amount of pressure our backline get nowadays is not healthy. The best defenders in the world will also be prone to errors under such pressure.
Not sure if you guys agree on this.
Unfortunately, BR like this attacking style which to me is good to see but we have to every time out score the opponents to win (like our last game with Swansea). It will give me a heart attack if the next 11 games are like that. Don't you always have to outscore your opponents to win? Isn't that the definition of winning?
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yes but not when we are see our lead trim from 2-0 to 2-2 to 3-3 and finally 4-3.
I know we are happy with end result but how we let in those goals is worrisome.
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I get what you mean, I'm mostly jsut having a bit of fun. Sakho can't come back soon enough.
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Not sure if the problem is entire Agger and Skrtel's fault.
The way we are playing now is focusing on attack and leaving only SG to cover the backline. While I acknowledge the work he has done so far as a DM, he can only do so much with his age.
The amount of pressure our backline get nowadays is not healthy. The best defenders in the world will also be prone to errors under such pressure.
Not sure if you guys agree on this.
Unfortunately, BR like this attacking style which to me is good to see but we have to every time out score the opponents to win (like our last game with Swansea). It will give me a heart attack if the next 11 games are like that. Totally agree with you, this is why I thought that buying a top DM was a priority in the last window, not another winger, and IMO it still is. not buying that..sure we are more open ..but bloody hell some of the mistakes are just kids stuff. we either need to hold the ball longer -like arsenal away (unlucky) or score 5 (stoke) cause the individual mistakes don't look like stopping any time soon
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The Swansea game wasn't JUST poor decision making, in the first half we were giving shelvey and co way too much space and continued to do so until their second goal. That's as a result of coaching/tactics. After halftime Rodgers tightened things up then later in the half brought Allen on to get more control over midfield. On the whole he did well to sort it out, but we are very lucky. If Henderson never scored that 4th goal, never followed up on the run after the first shot. We'd all be baying for blood after that game. We need to get back to playing the way we did against Tottenham. He sorted it out after putting Allen, we had too many attacking players on the field. I was calling for Allen to replace Coutinho in the half time, we cannot just rely on Gerrard to cover our defence.
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Allen will replace Coutinho for Southampton and possibly United as well. Coutinho will battle it out with Sterling for the wing spot although Sterling starts there for me as it stands.
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Not sure if the problem is entire Agger and Skrtel's fault.
The way we are playing now is focusing on attack and leaving only SG to cover the backline. While I acknowledge the work he has done so far as a DM, he can only do so much with his age.
The amount of pressure our backline get nowadays is not healthy. The best defenders in the world will also be prone to errors under such pressure.
Not sure if you guys agree on this.
Unfortunately, BR like this attacking style which to me is good to see but we have to every time out score the opponents to win (like our last game with Swansea). It will give me a heart attack if the next 11 games are like that. Totally agree with you, this is why I thought that buying a top DM was a priority in the last window, not another winger, and IMO it still is. not buying that..sure we are more open ..but bloody hell some of the mistakes are just kids stuff. we either need to hold the ball longer -like arsenal away (unlucky) or score 5 (stoke) cause the individual mistakes don't look like stopping any time soon I think that there was only one true mistake for their goals and we were expecting it for some time now, ie, Skrtel's shirt pulling. A bit strange he continued doing it, may be he thought he would get away with it again.
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The last time I can recall Agger and Skrtel playing consistently well was in Kenny's caretaker half season. I have to agree with some of the analysis pertaining to the pressure that our defenders are put under from gaping midfield gaps and opposition freedom, but they never look in control of their space at all. There is very little correct anticipation or shape and loads of reactionary panic.
We will be the first team I can recall who wins anything playing this way if we do at all. The alarming thing is that we have definitely got worse at the back over a number of games. With the errors being made all over the place if they aren't listening how are they coachable? This is not just individual mistakes and these guys aren't Flanagan's age FFS.
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The last time I can recall Agger and Skrtel playing consistently well was in Kenny's caretaker half season. I have to agree with some of the analysis pertaining to the pressure that our defenders are put under from gaping midfield gaps and opposition freedom, but they never look in control of their space at all. There is very little correct anticipation or shape and loads of reactionary panic.
We will be the first team I can recall who wins anything playing this way if we do at all. The alarming thing is that we have definitely got worse at the back over a number of games. With the errors being made all over the place if they aren't listening how are they coachable? This is not just individual mistakes and these guys aren't Flanagan's age FFS.
We also had the 4th defensive record under KD's full season and I don't remember playing too defensive then. Though we had the 11th attack, we missed a lot of chances and we had one of the most shots (Suarez was missing a lot of sitters and we were hitting the post quite significantly). It cannot be that all our CBs (Skrtel, Agger, Toure and even Sakho who played much less games) have suddenly become so crap, I am convinced it's our system with one too many attacking midfielder.
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