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We are being run on the cheap and BR has performed miracles getting us into the Top 4 with a budget a mid table manager would not be happy with.



We have the 4th highest spend in the league. Mid-table manager not be happy about spending 50-60 million per season, get over yourself. I bet Martinez would love to see that amount whilst he has Everton challenging for 4th on 20 million.

BR hasn't performed miracles at all, 100 million spent in 2 seasons should give him a solid top 4 place. Anything less than that and he deserves to be told to walk.


Ah another outburst from the man who predicted that we would sign no one AFTER the window closed.

Are you predicting we won't finish 4th now or will you wait until the season ends first.

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I have to agree, for me FSG are poor owners, while I feel I have always in a way sat on the fence of the 'FSG way vs FSG out'. I can well and truely say i am fully behind FSG out.

In everything they are showing little intrest in the football + fans, and more and more in the finances.

They purchased LFC with a bottom of the barrel offer, with the promise of a new stadium, competeing with any club in the world in the transfer market and taking LFC back to its glory days.

Since they have scrapped the new stadium, to redevelope Anfield which is completely for financal reasoning, not for the better of the club. They have scrimped and scraped on transfers signing more commercial deals than players.

BR and the players we have are doing fantastic with what they have and FSG deserve no praise at all. I see them as no different an H&G, this sell on value is just another way of saying you have to sell to buy for me, our transfer policy is a joke and the people we have negotiating the deals are brainless.


The problem with our Transfer policy is:
BR will see a player, the tight sss committee will value him lower than is worth whilst other clubs will value him at his worth, We will then spend MONTHS dealing with 1 player to save 2/3m. In this time another club will see this and say 'HEY LOOK! LFC are trying to get that lad for 10m, thats a bargian if we get him for that.. we dont mind spending 12m on him lets offer that' They go in offer 12m the club agrees and we walk away. I can garentee if other clubs show an intrest in Konoplyanka in the summer and are willing to pay the extra 2/3m inorder to prise him away from there owner LFC will not even match it.


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Personally I'm glad we didn't get the ukranian guy I thought it was a complete waste of money. I'm not blaming FSG as they clearly made funds available. Mistake by Rodgers in not trying to sign a midfielder or fullbacks.

Come the summer we should be able to attract better quality attacking players than Klonoplankya anyway if we make top 4.

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Personally I'm glad we didn't get the ukranian guy I thought it was a complete waste of money. I'm not blaming FSG as they clearly made funds available. Mistake by Rodgers in not trying to sign a midfielder or fullbacks.

Come the summer we should be able to attract better quality attacking players than Klonoplankya anyway if we make top 4.


That misses the unprofessional way the club is being run by the directors and owners Welsh.

Rogers could have wanted Donald Duck that's a normal part of the game and fans not agreeing with who a manager chooses to bring in.

What we have seen over 3 windows (which is now a trend) is that our transfer selection and execution policy has failed. Systems have not been put into place to resolve it. That is very worrying.

It either means we have complete incompetence at the higher levels of the club or that we are deliberately being mislead that they are genuinely interested in buying players that the manager and committee have selected. There is still some validity for me that spending much more than has been already at this time is not worth the payback from a champion's League place with it being all about profit and loss.


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I said we would sign nobody and I still believe we will finish in top 4.

The challenge for FSG is if that happens they need to spend about £150m on transfer fees alone to maintain a challenge for another top 4 finish and a respectable CL campaign.
Fantastic season so far but to back it up they will have to back themselves and find about 6 or 7 top players and integrate them into our squad.

Maybe their gamble is that by not spending now they save money whilst making us a sellable asset to someone like DIC to take it to the next level.

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this is the only thing im posting about this because i hate the transfer window (more so these days) but we have definitely seen behind the curtain, and seen the limitations of fsg's interest in club success. they are hedging, counting the pennies and have one foot out the door in case its not "viable"

in short, they are lying priicks and there is nothing i hate more than someone thinking they are "appeasing the masses" with their silver tongued charm. it ha increased my empathy for rodgers in some way but then again he is not speaking out about it so it kinda makes him part of the problem too.

and ian ayre is useless. absolutely useless.

everything hinges on making 4th this year.


I disagree with the idea that Rodgers needs to speak out more. I don't see what that would accomplish other than getting him sacked. I know we all love Raffa for standing up to HG, but the all the noise he was making really distracted the team from performing and started poisoning the dressing room. I remember Carra and Stevie talking about how that was a major factor for things coming off the boil for us that year. Even if FSG are nobs, they're his employers and he's there to do his job, not complain about his boss. I want BR to focus on getting us 4th, nothing else.
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What happened Marko? No FSG out still, pal?

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No...after letting the dust settle and finding out the payment for Kono was indeed made in time and that our failure to sign him was a result of Dnipro messing around, i cannot say the owners were not ambitious. They did make a mistake by not moving in earlier but at the moment we are still on course...


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One player, in a position that wasn't priority, for 15/16M is ambitious?

Mmkay.

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For me it was a priority position as it allows Coutinho to play centrally where he is far more effective and ad we have seen Gerrard can play DM without any problems.


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