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We all need to calm down. Like many of you I was up to the early hours on Friday refreshing all the latest news, hoping that we had signed Konoplyanka. He would have been an exciting addition. I've always said either him or Yarmolenko would be good for us! Anyway we failed. Just like we failed for Salah, Costa, Dempsey, Willian, Ericksen, Soldado, Sigurdsen et all.
YES I am unhappy with our transfer dealings. But we should also remember that FSG are the guys that brought in the 3rd best player in the world in Suarez, not to mention Sturridge and Coutinho. They also offered the buy-out clause for Costa (before anyone else) - arguably a world class striker this year - and for all the news bleeding out of the web it seems that Konoplyanka was a 'no go' and we were unfortunately being strung along! AND ONLY IN THE SUMMER THEY FOUGHT TO KEEP SUAREZ!! EVEN THOUGH OFFERS IN EXCESS OF £40M WERE KNOCKING ON THE DOOR! That new £300K a week salary was really 'Old Kent Road' wasn't it? FSG cheap? I don't think so. The worst they can be accused of is boring.
I'm sorry but some of you on here are acting as if the club has had its metaphorical pants down and is being bent over by the evil yanks! We had that before in Hicks and Gillette. We don't have that now. There are plenty of websites that provide data on our in-comings and outgoings and Chelsea and City aside we're pretty damn high on the 'outgoings' list.
I remember FSG removing a lot of the horrors of H&G and they are also about to redevelop our spiritual home to the size of Arsenal's palace - but that's just an excuse to call them cheap again, isn't it? It's just a redevelopment! The tight to$$ers! I would call it smart. And they were up front and honest with us about it from the start. It's not their fault that developments of this nature take time. But we get to keep Anfield and we get more money on the pitch too. That I like.
Their managerial appointment in Rogers is also proving inspired too. Much better than AVB at Spurs. And look at what Spurs have spent? WHO apart from Ericksen and Paulinho is playing well at Spurs? I'm pleased that some of you have finally got off of Roger's back on these forums - albeit we'll be hearing from you again shortly if the odd result doesn't go our way (even if we finish 4th or above!)
YES FSG are a little too commercial for my liking - but we have moaned about needing smart people to catch up with Utd for frickin' years now - so what's the problem with it!! As long as our match day programme doesn't show a rich business man in a suit shaking hands with a player in red like theirs we'll be fine.
In short I am VERY frustrated by our transfer dealings. But having quietly reflected over the course of today I am over it now. This year, when we get 4th (as a minimum), real progress will have been made and we will be able to attract the types of players others will not. We will have an edge over Spurs and Utd in the market and be on a level playing field (by offering European football) with the rest of them. We might have even more. Like History. Unlike City and Chelsea we are one of the Old Skool BIG CLUBS. I still think the future is bright. We are not a club in crisis so there's no need to scream for the heads of FSG just yet. Just remember the damage H&G did to our club. ANYONE could be waiting in the wings to take over - and with markets changing and money becoming available again I suspect there will be few dodgy ones waiting in the wings. 4th place is ours. But I'm dreaming of higher. And we're moving in the right direction.
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Excellent thread but there's a similar one under time to move on.
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Well written and thought out.
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It don't matter if we offer the buy out or what the club wants, it matters what the player wants ! and I believe we have lost most of these due to pay and bonus issues for the player , players only care about what they get , how much moolay! No offence, but those players are welcome to pack their pink shoes and Fck right off out the club, Suarez included. If all you are here for is money, let me get your bags sir.
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Has to be that look how many times we have been told they offered the higher amount miki is an obvious one ! But for the player to choose another club and blame no CL exposure ! Well at the moment we would be a real chance of CL exposure yet players are still walking ? Salah etc , So when / if we get CL let's say We do what excuse will they come up with then for not getting top targets ? How anyone can think it's anything else but FSG money & wage policies that is scaring off our targets I don't get ! I am beyond angry we didnt get Konoplyanka, because out of the host of players we have been linked with in the past 3 windows, it was him, Yarmolenko and Diego Costa I wanted the most. However, one would have to be ridiculously closed minded and stupid to think that the Konoplyanka deal collapsed due to FSG. It collapsed due to the lad having 3 agents who couldn't come to an agreement amongst themselves. The money was there. The reason I am upset is because other than KOno, there were at least another 5 players we could have easily gone for and gotten.
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Has to be that look how many times we have been told they offered the higher amount miki is an obvious one ! But for the player to choose another club and blame no CL exposure ! Well at the moment we would be a real chance of CL exposure yet players are still walking ? Salah etc , So when / if we get CL let's say We do what excuse will they come up with then for not getting top targets ? How anyone can think it's anything else but FSG money & wage policies that is scaring off our targets I don't get ! I am beyond angry we didnt get Konoplyanka, because out of the host of players we have been linked with in the past 3 windows, it was him, Yarmolenko and Diego Costa I wanted the most. However, one would have to be ridiculously closed minded and stupid to think that the Konoplyanka deal collapsed due to FSG. It collapsed due to the lad having 3 agents who couldn't come to an agreement amongst themselves. The money was there. The reason I am upset is because other than KOno, there were at least another 5 players we could have easily gone for and gotten. like who?
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IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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The frustration stems from the general opinion that this was the best chance in years to return to CL football and we the fans could see without a doubt that they were positions we needed extra cover for that final push.
I don't think it was not signing anyone in particular that frustrated the majority but the way we did business and dithered over some of the targets. It became a habit and certainly I didn't like the roller coaster ride
All said and done, the windows has closed and let's confine this to the history books. Loom forward and support the team as we always do for that coveted CL place.
For the first time in a long time we are not too divided in our opinions at the results on the pitch.
I am certainly looking forward to those special European nights under the anfield lights Ina few months with a few new additions.
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We all need to calm down. Like many of you I was up to the early hours on Friday refreshing all the latest news, hoping that we had signed Konoplyanka. He would have been an exciting addition. I've always said either him or Yarmolenko would be good for us! Anyway we failed. Just like we failed for Salah, Costa, Dempsey, Willian, Ericksen, Soldado, Sigurdsen et all.
YES I am unhappy with our transfer dealings. But we should also remember that FSG are the guys that brought in the 3rd best player in the world in Suarez, not to mention Sturridge and Coutinho. They also offered the buy-out clause for Costa (before anyone else) - arguably a world class striker this year - and for all the news bleeding out of the web it seems that Konoplyanka was a 'no go' and we were unfortunately being strung along! AND ONLY IN THE SUMMER THEY FOUGHT TO KEEP SUAREZ!! EVEN THOUGH OFFERS IN EXCESS OF £40M WERE KNOCKING ON THE DOOR! That new £300K a week salary was really 'Old Kent Road' wasn't it? FSG cheap? I don't think so. The worst they can be accused of is boring.
I'm sorry but some of you on here are acting as if the club has had its metaphorical pants down and is being bent over by the evil yanks! We had that before in Hicks and Gillette. We don't have that now. There are plenty of websites that provide data on our in-comings and outgoings and Chelsea and City aside we're pretty damn high on the 'outgoings' list.
I remember FSG removing a lot of the horrors of H&G and they are also about to redevelop our spiritual home to the size of Arsenal's palace - but that's just an excuse to call them cheap again, isn't it? It's just a redevelopment! The tight to$$ers! I would call it smart. And they were up front and honest with us about it from the start. It's not their fault that developments of this nature take time. But we get to keep Anfield and we get more money on the pitch too. That I like.
Their managerial appointment in Rogers is also proving inspired too. Much better than AVB at Spurs. And look at what Spurs have spent? WHO apart from Ericksen and Paulinho is playing well at Spurs? I'm pleased that some of you have finally got off of Roger's back on these forums - albeit we'll be hearing from you again shortly if the odd result doesn't go our way (even if we finish 4th or above!)
YES FSG are a little too commercial for my liking - but we have moaned about needing smart people to catch up with Utd for frickin' years now - so what's the problem with it!! As long as our match day programme doesn't show a rich business man in a suit shaking hands with a player in red like theirs we'll be fine.
In short I am VERY frustrated by our transfer dealings. But having quietly reflected over the course of today I am over it now. This year, when we get 4th (as a minimum), real progress will have been made and we will be able to attract the types of players others will not. We will have an edge over Spurs and Utd in the market and be on a level playing field (by offering European football) with the rest of them. We might have even more. Like History. Unlike City and Chelsea we are one of the Old Skool BIG CLUBS. I still think the future is bright. We are not a club in crisis so there's no need to scream for the heads of FSG just yet. Just remember the damage H&G did to our club. ANYONE could be waiting in the wings to take over - and with markets changing and money becoming available again I suspect there will be few dodgy ones waiting in the wings. 4th place is ours. But I'm dreaming of higher. And we're moving in the right direction.
Thank you for writing almost exactly what I would have.
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