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Right, let me get started. I honestly believed we would strengthen this window. We haven't and there are no excuses anymore so i need to apologize for some things.
Firstly, Stanley, i now agree with your view on Kenny Dalglish, the man has effed us up beyond repair with his latest stint as manager. His millions Spunked on junk have made our owners extremely stingy. Its a fact and i am sorry for the slack i gave you about that.
Secondly, there is absolutely no excuse for not strengthening. This bull about the right players is nonsense. For every Salah there is a Konoplyanka. Its not like only one player in the world would have been the rightplayer for us. There were plenty aavailable and we got no one.
I believed increased commercial and match day revenue would be put towards transfers and the stadium but it hasn't been. There is no excuse for that.
I believed that with their vast sporting experience they would make us successful again. Now i believe they just want to sell the club at a nice profit.
I still believe they have done a lot of good too, but its not enough because for me football is not about accounts and sustainability but about passion, hunger and success.
I still believe we are good enough to make top 4 and that we will but it is not enough. We had a real chance this season to do even better than that, and we still might, but the lack of ambition from the owners is shocking.
I think BR deserves a new long term contract because he has done fantastically well in my opinion.
Last but not least, due to the fact that the owners have shown no ambition in this window and the fact that we have missed out on several players who would have madeus great aagain and the fact that i believe it was FSG's penny pinching that cost us these players, i no longer believe they are the right owners for us.
We need owners with ambition, not owners with accountants.
As i said, i believe we are a very good team and very strong and still favourites for that 4th spot, but i believe that is down to BR and the lads and not FSG. So to summarize all this, i guess all that's left for me to say is
FSG OUT!
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Of course, i will always be behind the team, but we need owners with ambition.
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It's a bad thing to have to admit that we have to start again with new owners again  I was so hoping that FSG would do for is what they have for the red socks, but it's not to be. We need a new start again and hope that the next owners will have some ambition. But the worrying thing is we could be stuck with this lot for at least five more years.
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If fsg asking price is market value
Club will be under new owners in months
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Right, let me get started. I honestly believed we would strengthen this window. We haven't and there are no excuses anymore so i need to apologize for some things.
Firstly, Stanley, i now agree with your view on Kenny Dalglish, the man has effed us up beyond repair with his latest stint as manager. His millions Spunked on junk have made our owners extremely stingy. Its a fact and i am sorry for the slack i gave you about that.
Secondly, there is absolutely no excuse for not strengthening. This bull about the right players is nonsense. For every Salah there is a Konoplyanka. Its not like only one player in the world would have been the rightplayer for us. There were plenty aavailable and we got no one.
I believed increased commercial and match day revenue would be put towards transfers and the stadium but it hasn't been. There is no excuse for that.
I believed that with their vast sporting experience they would make us successful again. Now i believe they just want to sell the club at a nice profit.
I still believe they have done a lot of good too, but its not enough because for me football is not about accounts and sustainability but about passion, hunger and success.
I still believe we are good enough to make top 4 and that we will but it is not enough. We had a real chance this season to do even better than that, and we still might, but the lack of ambition from the owners is shocking.
I think BR deserves a new long term contract because he has done fantastically well in my opinion.
Last but not least, due to the fact that the owners have shown no ambition in this window and the fact that we have missed out on several players who would have madeus great aagain and the fact that i believe it was FSG's penny pinching that cost us these players, i no longer believe they are the right owners for us.
We need owners with ambition, not owners with accountants.
As i said, i believe we are a very good team and very strong and still favourites for that 4th spot, but i believe that is down to BR and the lads and not FSG. So to summarize all this, i guess all that's left for me to say is
FSG OUT!
I agree with what you are saying except the first part. I think FSG has to take full responsibility of expenses even in KD's days because they are the ones who appointed a Director of football to value players and negotiate their purchases, KD was like a coach responsible for the playing system and also to identify players. In fact, I am dead sure about this because I heard it fron the horse's mouth himself. A few months after he was sacked, Comolli was interviewed on French tv, Canal+, and this is what he said (not his exact words as I am not translating word for word): When the offer from Chelsea came, I was told by FSG that TORRES HAD TO GO. KD wanted to play a 442 formation, so we had to find a centre forward to play with Suarez. People are saying that Caroll was expensive, but it was good business. Suarez and Caroll were purchased at the same price that Torres and Babel were sold, so it was good business. It is clear to me that Comolli had the responsibility of finding players (and negotiate their prices) based on the profile given to him by the manager. Can anybody blame BR for us not buying Salah or Kono etc? This is how FSG operates, it's like in baseball, the manager is not given full control (within a budget of course) as it was with Fergie or now with Wenger and Jose. Managers are responsible for, on the field affairs. Last but not least. Every team makes mistakes with purchases, even Fergie bought Veron and May, better not speak about Chelsea and City, that doesn't mean that you should stop buying top players, else, you are not in the right business. FSG are not the right owners, but we are stuck with them, unfortunately.
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That sounds like a pretty fair assessment, Vish
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I'm waiting for the open letter from jwh
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Right, let me get started. I honestly believed we would strengthen this window. We haven't and there are no excuses anymore so i need to apologize for some things.
Firstly, Stanley, i now agree with your view on Kenny Dalglish, the man has effed us up beyond repair with his latest stint as manager. His millions Spunked on junk have made our owners extremely stingy. Its a fact and i am sorry for the slack i gave you about that.
Secondly, there is absolutely no excuse for not strengthening. This bull about the right players is nonsense. For every Salah there is a Konoplyanka. Its not like only one player in the world would have been the rightplayer for us. There were plenty aavailable and we got no one.
I believed increased commercial and match day revenue would be put towards transfers and the stadium but it hasn't been. There is no excuse for that.
I believed that with their vast sporting experience they would make us successful again. Now i believe they just want to sell the club at a nice profit.
I still believe they have done a lot of good too, but its not enough because for me football is not about accounts and sustainability but about passion, hunger and success.
I still believe we are good enough to make top 4 and that we will but it is not enough. We had a real chance this season to do even better than that, and we still might, but the lack of ambition from the owners is shocking.
I think BR deserves a new long term contract because he has done fantastically well in my opinion.
Last but not least, due to the fact that the owners have shown no ambition in this window and the fact that we have missed out on several players who would have madeus great aagain and the fact that i believe it was FSG's penny pinching that cost us these players, i no longer believe they are the right owners for us.
We need owners with ambition, not owners with accountants.
As i said, i believe we are a very good team and very strong and still favourites for that 4th spot, but i believe that is down to BR and the lads and not FSG. So to summarize all this, i guess all that's left for me to say is
FSG OUT!
Fair play to you Ninj. I think FSG have shown their true intentions during the last two transfer windows. They will place the blame for this latest fiasco at the Door of the Ukranian owner but the owner of Basle had no problem signing the paperwork for Salah. We are being run on the cheap and BR has performed miracles getting us into the Top 4 with a budget a mid table manager would not be happy with. I have said it before and I will keep saying it, we are going nowhere with owners who are more interested in American baseball. 4th in the table and FSG still manage to turn us into a laughing stock.
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I think BR, like any other manager would love expensive quality signings and compete for and with the best out there.
BR was installed as manager to do well on a tight budget but an important attribute was that he wouldn't rock the boat ala Rafa, Rodgers is a yes man.
I knew FSG would turn out like this... They are venture capitalists, it is 'The American Way'.
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A pretty sensible thread and fair reflection on another failed window.
It's not this season I'm worried about. We know Manu will strengthen in the summer so top 4 is more important than ever. If we make it, and I'm confident we will, will Luis stick around knowing the limited players coming in?
This could well be a one season blip for united so who's top 4 place will we need next year, Arsenal's?
We'll have the world cup excuse, then things will drag on and I'm guessing we'll be in for another dissapointing summer. That's IF we make top 4.
I'm going to enjoy the football, and watching SSS while I can, and leave it to the match going fans to vote with their feet.
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