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Out of all of them deals, I only class Sturridge and Sakho as decent buys, oh and Sahin, but Rodgers ruined that deal.
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Good points but !
LFC needed 1st team ready buys and could not afford to have bought players that don't contribute !
Aspas non contributions
Illori ditto
Alberto ditto non of any note!
Coutinho contributes but not consistent total money for these players 30 odd mil wtf for non team players or regular consistency add Allen then it's nearly 50 mil ?.
Allen contributes but not consistent
To me sending illori to a Spanish club has got knobs on it it should of been low prem or championship side or play him regularly in under 21's don't think he has played in under 21's has he ? If , when he comes back from Spain we have same probs not used to English game not used to our team system more settling back time when he returns
I think this is a but odd on the whole ? Maybe BR wants LFC to play more like Spanish football than British, you know, Tiki Taka
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Out of the players that Rodgers has bought in I've put them into different categories.
First team players, who actually get help the team:
Allen. Some like him some don't, but did very well this season when he played.
Sakho. Stared of slow but is a bit of a beast now.
Coutinho. Has been slowing down, but obviously has talent and is very good.
Sturridge. Great buy, happy to have him
Migs. Good shot stopper, has been good in general.
Toure. Been decent, especially for free, smart buy.
Ones for the future:
Illori. Is highly rated and was always going out on loan apparently.
Boroni. Started of slow, but has been showing improvement.
Alberto. Has quality, but needs to find his feet and settle.
Failures:
Aspas: been average at best, might come good, but hasn't yet.
Loans that you can gamble on:
Cissoko. Very average, tries his best but just doesn't have it.
Sahin. Was decent, not to sure what went wrong there.
Moses. Has moments of quality, but is quite lazy and doesn't seem to care.
To me, he hasn't done to bad, most of the players are getting games and helping out. Some haven't settled yet, but have time on their side. Only Cissoko, Moses and Aspas have been poor and two of them are loans without much risk. Ilori highly rated but cannot even warm the bench, is that a joke? There are other players of his age in the first team. Is Alberto much better than Shelvey, doubt that. I better not speak of Aspas. BR should have just kept Downing and spend the money on a top DM, we would be better off, so cannot say BR is clean as a virgin.
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Out of the players that Rodgers has bought in I've put them into different categories.
First team players, who actually get help the team:
Allen. Some like him some don't, but did very well this season when he played.
Sakho. Stared of slow but is a bit of a beast now.
Coutinho. Has been slowing down, but obviously has talent and is very good.
Sturridge. Great buy, happy to have him
Migs. Good shot stopper, has been good in general.
Toure. Been decent, especially for free, smart buy.
Ones for the future:
Illori. Is highly rated and was always going out on loan apparently.
Boroni. Started of slow, but has been showing improvement.
Alberto. Has quality, but needs to find his feet and settle.
Failures:
Aspas: been average at best, might come good, but hasn't yet.
Loans that you can gamble on:
Cissoko. Very average, tries his best but just doesn't have it.
Sahin. Was decent, not to sure what went wrong there.
Moses. Has moments of quality, but is quite lazy and doesn't seem to care.
To me, he hasn't done to bad, most of the players are getting games and helping out. Some haven't settled yet, but have time on their side. Only Cissoko, Moses and Aspas have been poor and two of them are loans without much risk. Ilori highly rated but cannot even warm the bench , is that a joke? There are other players of his age in the first team. Is Alberto much better than Shelvey, doubt that. I better not speak of Aspas. BR should have just kept Downing and spend the money on a top DM, we would be better off, so cannot say BR is clean as a virgin. Hence the reason some Spanish clubs are willing and wanting to take him on loan. Maybe BR (and it is MAYBE) is just letting him find his feet and get settled. Shelvey is better than Alberto at the moment, but you got to question why Swansea are doing so averagely this season, maybe Shelvey is contributing to that. As for Aspas, I did say he was poor. I'm not blowing any players trumpets, but my categories have relevance.
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Oh FFS. There's plenty of information on the committee out there, it consists of Rodgers, Hunter, Fallows, His swansea rejects - Pascoe, Driscoll and Davies and then Ayre. It has nothing to do with FSG, they set the initial budget which Rodgers has to work with, he then gets funds from player sales as well, hence he's spent 100m in 3 transfer windows.
Why is it so hard for people to understand, Rodgers outlines his plans, tells his scouts what kind of players he wants, from what country, what position, everything down to the detail, they look for those kinds of player report back to his technical staff who write up a report, watch videos blah blah, they all have a meting, Rodgers tells Ayre how much he wants to spend, get them to sign up. Not hard to understand really.
Rodgers would have known about every transfer we've made, he would have had input in every transfer we've made, he would have personally told Ayre to sign those players.
We sign a dud, let's blame FSG who had no say in the transfer, we sign a good player, oh Rodgers is wonderful and the greatest manager since Paisley.[/quote]
I said he's done well with the sqaud this season. He's a good manager, not wonderful. I wanted Rafa back but he wouldn't last 5 minutes with these owners.
Still doesn't make much sense. So Rodgers says 'I want a creative midfielder from Spain, youve got 7m' and the committee comes up with Alberto.. If FSG set a low budget, he's already restricted. If they tell him he needs to get 6-7 players off the wage bill, he has to spread any budget/sales to bring in 6-7 players. The committee's restricted by budget, re-sale value, age etc.. so any players they bring BR wouldn't be his first choices.
BR clearly has to take a portion of the blame for his signings, but it's not a system that's going to work. The 'buck' stops at the top, which is FSG.
I hope they pull something out the bag in the next 5 days.
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That's because Rafa sold Cavani Rafa also signed our first choice Keeper and didn't pay a penny for him, meanwhile we went out and splashed 10m on a new one. Rafa also signed Albiol for 11m, whereas we spent over 15m on Sakho, Rafa signed Callejon for 8m, whilst we spent the same amount on Aspas, Rafa signed Mertens for 8m whilst we signed Alberto...you get the idea, it's about spending smart. Over the last 2 seasons we've spent a small fortune on foreign players that can't even get a look in at this club, despite the fact that our squad is depleted. Meanwhile Shelvey and Spearing get flogged for cheap and just happen to be great players, Suso and Assaidi get sent out on loan which means we have no cover on the wings, God knows what happened to Coates, Wilson has been on phenomenal form in Scotland since being released, Robinson is tearing up the championship, meanwhile we're stuck with an injured Enrique and a [oops] Cissokho. None of it makes any sense at all. Good points. Rafa has a decent record with signings and most flops were free/cheap, not 7-8m. I assume he picks players at Napoli without having to refer to a committee.
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It's a shame Tom Ince wasn't brought back as he would have fitted in well along side Suarez and Sturridge and would have cost peanuts!.Menez is also available this transfer window as he wants out of PSG and would cost next to nothing. I think our entire scouting network needs to be overhauled and major investment in to this area needs to be addressed more than any other at the club.
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That's because Rafa sold Cavani Rafa also signed our first choice Keeper and didn't pay a penny for him, meanwhile we went out and splashed 10m on a new one. Rafa also signed Albiol for 11m, whereas we spent over 15m on Sakho, Rafa signed Callejon for 8m, whilst we spent the same amount on Aspas, Rafa signed Mertens for 8m whilst we signed Alberto...you get the idea, it's about spending smart. Over the last 2 seasons we've spent a small fortune on foreign players that can't even get a look in at this club, despite the fact that our squad is depleted. Meanwhile Shelvey and Spearing get flogged for cheap and just happen to be great players, Suso and Assaidi get sent out on loan which means we have no cover on the wings, God knows what happened to Coates, Wilson has been on phenomenal form in Scotland since being released, Robinson is tearing up the championship, meanwhile we're stuck with an injured Enrique and a [oops] Cissokho. None of it makes any sense at all. But it seems convenient that you have forgotten to mention Zapata, Armero, Radosevic and Calaio who have all been average, or getting used to the league. What about spending smart on Sturridge who cost 13 mil, who has banged in more goals than Huguain this season who cost almost 3 times his amount. I'm not sure that Albiol is better than Sokho at all. I'm not to sure that your points are that valid, everyone with a limited budget makes mistakes.
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rafa will be sacked soon no doubt,he could sign messi and turn him into a fullback
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Bit he also likes to argue with everyone! Bit of a WUM is our Spice Boys.
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