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You have, in several of your earlier guises criticised Suarez's ability to finish and dismissed his form as merely a purple patch.
Lambert will never require the platform because Lambert(Unlike Suarez)will never be world class.
World class is directly linked to ability, not where you are playing. The underlying difficulty you have with Suarez is that you dont like him. The fact that he has made a complete nonsense of your assessment of his ability has merely compounded your dislike of him.
We have a world class striker lining out for us every week and the only person that cant see that (as usual) is you.
Surprise surprise.
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Don't bother shaggy. His tiny mind couldn't comprehend the truth of the matter.
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In the car going to the match today radio city were debating the above and John Aldridge thought there was a pretty good case and they were comparing him with dalglish and some were saying he was better than dalglish.
I am currently thinking that one over slightly difficult as they had different strengths Kenny could read the game better but Suarez is better technically in my opinion but I am still mulling over.
Also on MOD on Wednesday robbie fowler said (jokingly but in half truth) that he dislikes Suarez as he makes the great strikers of the past look average.
It's a debating point but you can certainty put a very good case to say Suarez is the greatest ever Liverpool striker
Thoughts ? There are no quantifiable criteria that can be used to say for sure who is better. But.....the way I compare players from different eras is to look back at old games and see the kind of influence that they had on a match compared to their comparitive counterparts today. With that in mind, you would have to be more than a little unstable to say that Dalglish had anywhere near the ability of Suarez. KD was undeniably good, but never shone or carried a team in the way that LS does. And KD had the benefit of playing in a team that was dominating, making his job that much better due to the quality of support around him. LS is setting the world alight despite being surrounded by players that maybe shouldn't even be on the same pitch as him. yes you make some good points there but to carry the debate on doesnt it make players like Gerrard and Suarez shine brighter when you play alongside average and rubbish players, am sorry but you and I would look good playing alongside players like Lucas, Henderson and Johnson. I always looked at your Dalglish and Souness played in great teams but they still shone brighter above your Hansen, Rush, Whelan, Lawrensons e.t.c. Who were very good players in thre own rite also if Gerrard had gone to Chelsea would he still stick out like a sore thumb in a team consisting of Lampard, Robben, Drogba and Essien I think not so I think playing alongside rubbish makes a player look a bit better than he actualy is. Yes and no, but........Suarez 's job is that much harder than Dalglish's was due to inferior support around him. And I never saw KD control, dominate and change games in the way that LS does. LS is a much better forward in my opinion and has a bigger impact in games than Kenny ever did.
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Thing is, we are currently 2nd on the log...so it turns out, the rest of our squad ain't as rubbish as you are making out.
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Thing is, we are currently 2nd on the log...so it turns out, the rest of our squad ain't as rubbish as you are making out. And if they were, it would mean Suarez is even better, not only compared to LFC players but compared to every player in the EPL. But this is beyond somebody's understanding for obvious reasons.
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we hear you, you don't bother listening to us so better off leaving it at this point joe
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He bores the [oops] out of me!
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I haven't been a fan very long compared to most of you guys so the only strikers I can compare him to are Liverpool 2007 - now. And with that in mind, Torres is his only competition and I would say Suarez is better.
As for the old boys: Kenny, Fowler, Owen, Aldridge, etc. I never saw them play so I can't say who is better.
I think for Suarez to be considered the greatest ever he needs to win something with us. Score in an FA Cup final or help us knock out some of the big boys in the Champions League.
Also, it seems like for every era Liverpool have a great striker. The 2008/2009 Liverpool were the only ones I saw that had a great striker, a great midfield, and a great defense. It seems like we've always got 2/3 but just can't get the final piece in place. , thats a question I would like answered, would Maradonna be regarded the greatest in the World if he never won that World Cup or single handidly carried Napoli to two serie A titles think not, winning major trophies defines players. Did you even read what I wrote?
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He never reads anything and will always twist what you say and contradict himself to suit. It's what he does and unfortunately we all fuel it.
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