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[quote=wilkij1975]But you're doing the same by excepting Maradonna cheating are you not? Be consistent or does that not get the best rise ?
all I am saying about Maradonna is that if he never would of won what he did he would never of been considered the greatedt player in the world, same as Messi, Ronaldo, Zidane, Figo e.t.c. they are all considered the best because they reached the top and won the games major honours, just appearing in the Premier League with the highlight being playing against United and Everton can hardly justify a player being one of the best in the world which is all Suarez really does no matter how well he plays or how many goals he scores, its not the highest level.


Does Suarez not play at the highest level? I'm sure he plays for his national side Uraguay and plays very well for them. As a matter of fact I think he may even be their highest goal scorer ever! Did Uraguay not come 4th at the 2010 World Cup? Did they not win the Copa America in 2011 with Suarez named player of the tournament? I think this constitutes playing at the highest level!!



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[quote=wilkij1975]But you're doing the same by excepting Maradonna cheating are you not? Be consistent or does that not get the best rise ?
all I am saying about Maradonna is that if he never would of won what he did he would never of been considered the greatedt player in the world, same as Messi, Ronaldo, Zidane, Figo e.t.c. they are all considered the best because they reached the top and won the games major honours, just appearing in the Premier League with the highlight being playing against United and Everton can hardly justify a player being one of the best in the world which is all Suarez really does no matter how well he plays or how many goals he scores, its not the highest level.


Does Suarez not play at the highest level? I'm sure he plays for his national side Uraguay and plays very well for them. As a matter of fact I think he may even be their highest goal scorer ever! Did Uraguay not come 4th at the 2010 World Cup? Did they not win the Copa America in 2011 with Suarez named player of the tournament? I think this constitutes playing at the highest level!!


World Cup ever four years, come on be serious, Like I say until Suarez plays in more meaningful games than League games against Everton and United each season he seriously cant be comapared to the worlds best players no matter how many goals he scores in them, I thought he was outstanding against Norwich recently and scored some unbelievable goals also he done great against West Ham but scoring goals against that type of opposition hardly puts him alongside Messi, Ronaldo or Ibrahimovic now does it or Aguero, Rooney or RVP who regulary score in finals or Championship run ins, Please, answer this, will Suarez ever, ever, score a goal more meaningful or important than the one Aguero scored against Q.P.R. to clinch the League the other season playing for Liverpool, no, never, only top, top players have that in there locker to score like that when the pressure was on, until Suarez actualy demonstarted he can do this he will never be on the same level, saying he would do it and actualy doing it are two entirely different things.


You keep confusing a team performance with a player's performance as usual. What has Bale done to warrant the highest current transfer fee? Every expert on the planet says that Suarez is a top top player unlike you. Says a lot about you actually, you don't seem to know much at least in footballing matters.

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[quote=wilkij1975][quote=redged7][quote=wilkij1975]But you're doing the same by excepting Maradonna cheating are you not? Be consistent or does that not get the best rise ?

Does Suarez not play at the highest level? I'm sure he plays for his national side Uraguay and plays very well for them. As a matter of fact I think he may even be their highest goal scorer ever! Did Uraguay not come 4th at the 2010 World Cup? Did they not win the Copa America in 2011 with Suarez named player of the tournament? I think this constitutes playing at the highest level!!


World Cup ever four years, come on be serious, Like I say until Suarez plays in more meaningful games than League games against Everton and United each season he seriously cant be comapared to the worlds best players no matter how many goals he scores in them, I thought he was outstanding against Norwich recently and scored some unbelievable goals also he done great against West Ham but scoring goals against that type of opposition hardly puts him alongside Messi, Ronaldo or Ibrahimovic now does it or Aguero, Rooney or RVP who regulary score in finals or Championship run ins, Please, answer this, will Suarez ever, ever, score a goal more meaningful or important than the one Aguero scored against Q.P.R. to clinch the League the other season playing for Liverpool, no, never, only top, top players have that in there locker to score like that when the pressure was on, until Suarez actualy demonstarted he can do this he will never be on the same level, saying he would do it and actualy doing it are two entirely different things.


Given the opportunity yes he could because he has the ability to do it. He may not have the side around him to get to that position but that doesn't mean he's not one of the best in the world. Team and individual are two very different things and as an individual, regardless of which team he plays for he is in the top 2/3 players in the world at the moment without a doubt.

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lads why do you bother feeding this troll. He is never going to agree and is sitting at home lad in hands enjoying himself at all the fish hes reeling in.

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lads why do you bother feeding this troll. He is never going to agree and is sitting at home lad in hands enjoying himself at all the fish hes reeling in.


+1 you can win an argument when he constantly changes the parameters, if everyone ignores him he will fck off.

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Originally Posted By: redged7
Why can't people just keep to the subject instead of going off topic and name calling, it's very childish, you don't have to agree with my point of view so either debate it or just ignore it.
I think if Ricky Lambert scored 40 goals this season people on here would say he wasn't world class or put him alongside Messi or Ronaldo, the reason Suarez gets put on that equal footing is simple, this is a Liverpool forum and he is a Liverpool player, nothing more nothing less, Suarez is a fantastic player agreed same as Gerrard but both are hyped up to be better than they actualy are on here, suppose if you went on a Chelsea forum Lampard is and Drogba was on the same level as Messi too a couple of years back, just the way it is.
I just don't see how you can put a player on the same level as the best in the world if he doesn't play on the same platform.
This is a valid opinion so please no insults, just ignore if you don't agree but all opinions on what I have just said are welcome.


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We're trying to debate with you but when you keep moving the goals posts and contradicting your own arguments it gets a bit hard going. You're here for nothing more but to stir up some [oops].

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wasn't talking about you


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there is no debate. there is no counter argument . suarez is the best player on the planet right now. WOW we have him here. smile smile

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