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There's so many factors to take into consideration with the greatest ever thing but going on natural ability,it's still Barnes for me.
That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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Yes I go with Barnes
But Suarez is up there
These are the best two ability wise
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H Right now, he's simply one of the top 3 best players in the world. And I would also argue that the best players of today, are the better players than the great players of yesterday. A big and bold statement I know, but when you consider how much the game has changed, both tactically, physically and practically (players training, fitness, diet regimes etc), the fact is its a much less physical sport now, where a player cant just commit a hideous foul on another to take them out of the game. Also, Suarez is part of a much much much worse team than dalglish, barnes, rush or fowler have ever been a part of and yet he is still doing the business and shining through. No many of the previously mentioned could have done that. yes but if he is playing alongside rubbish he is always going to look better than he is, it's common sense as for being in the top 3 players in the world, he is not better than Aguero in this league never mind in the world. A player who does'nt play for a top Club cant be considered the best in the world when they dont have a club which plays at the highest level. Aguero plays, performs and succeeds at a higher level than Suarez each season so how can you put Suarez on the same platform, quite bizzare, was Steve Bull better than Ian Rush all those years ago because he scored 52 goals in one season for Wolves in division 2 while rush only scored about 30 in the same season we won the League and might also of added the European Cup. You're arguments are so flawed comparing a player in div 2 to a player in Div 1!! Suarez plays in the same league as Aguero! YES Suarez is better than Aguero and in my opinion by quite a way! Suarez also performs in the world stage for his country so he does play at the highest level available and performs extremely well at that level!
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I thought our expectations was champions league
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Trophies boys and girls, great players attract great players, and make good players better. Which brings trophies. Suarez hasn't yet won many things with us. He is brilliant but until he brings us trophies can't put him in the bracket with our legends.
What should be happening is cavani, cesc, ibrahimovich, hazard, etc want to play alongside Suarez (for us not real). Pie in the sky stuff I know given our financial constraints. But lets say top players we would have to puah the boat out for like Mata, Henrik mit...., etc
If and when he attracts those players and wins with them he can slot into the list of Liverpool greats.
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Nonsense if that logic worked Phil Neal would be one of the greatest ever players or Gary Neville
Or jimmy travel you know who mean I iPad refuses to spell his name but was in our champions league final in 2005
The trophy thing does not work
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Just explaining how Aguero plays and performs each season on a totaly different level, expectation and pressure than Suarez and how they cannot be compared, I used the point of Steve Bull playing for Wolves in the old second division and Ian Rush who scored less goals but won the League and European Cup as an example of it's harder at the top to perform and succeed which makes Aguero the best. Never thought someone could jam so much nonesense into a few lines since the late Mick (resurrected?). You are entitled to have your own opinion and everyone else is entitled to think that it is pure cr ap. The real problem is how much vile, grudge, venom and hatred you carry to our great club while trying to convince us that you are a Liverpool fan no less. All you're trying to do is belittle the club and drag us down to the level of everton (your real club, perhaps?) We are way way above Manchester City as football club. We are five times European Champions and eighteen times nglish champions. All of City's trophies would fit under a small table in the boot room, and if your criterion is the present rather than the past, we happen to be sitting above them in the table as of this moment, so why don't you just f**king disappear
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if suarez stays for years scores goals on a regular basis , doesnt cause trouble and helps the club to win a couple of cups or even a league then maybe just maybe he could be better than , hunt , keegan,dalglish ,rush,fowler,owen,torres .
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