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why is our vocal support for the side so poor?

last night i noticed how little and how silent our fans sang in lille. it's been an ongoing problem for many years now.

obviously for the big games like champs league semis we're the best but what fans wouldnt be brilliant in a champs league semi final?

for the run of the mill games we are the worst supporters in the league.

there could be a few reasons for the silent support we have.

is it the boring football we play?

is it the reality dawning that our over hyped team has underperformed again? are our expectations too high?

is it the fact that the songs we sing are too compicated for fans to be bothered to learn and sing?

is it the fact that when we do sing songs they are sung too fast and with no passion?

is it the type of fans we now attract to anfield?

is it because our fans come from all over the country that there is no close bond between us?

before you have a go,i'm not taking the miky.
i've had a season ticket for over 26 years and went to games even before that time. i also make most away games.

i'm also admitting that i dont soing half as much as i should do. some of the reasons for my lack of support are among those listed above.

anyone agree?

yes.

like i said all the things i put could be the cause. i think it's a mixture of all of them.

we are constsntly told that lfc are the greatest and have to win things. maybe this is what the club thinks we want to hear. but it has an adverse affect when we dont win.

we are a national joke when we dont win things...all because of our boasting and hype.

many fans are let down and miserable because they a daft enough to believe the hype coming from the club.

i think it's time we realised we are not as good as we think we are. we are not among the top 4 clubs anymore and our ambitions should be lower.

maybe then the fans will realise that the team needs support even against the so called lesser teams

agreed.
its very hard to support a set up that you dont support. i support the club but i dont support the current manager, ethos, style of play, purchases, sales, most of the players.

i may not have the exact solution to our problems, but i know what we got aint it.

well the question of our support being indifferent i guess boils down to the fact that our player of the season will be between reina and mascherano just shows how crap the football we play is at the moment

For me its a case of going to the games with the expectancy of not enjoying it, knowing the style of play, the team formation and the stubborn refusal of the manager to see exactly what is going on out there (how the likes of Dirk Kuyt gets a game every week).
The negativity of the whole situation makes you feel down before you have even got to your seat.
I know in an ideal world we would be up for every game, shouting and singing for 90 minutes - but the top and bottom of it is we go to be entertained.

well said officer.

i think the crowds attitude is a reflection of the managers and players attitude. how can ya cheer a marathon runner who has decided to coast, or....or..... ok i cant think of any more examples but you get my meaning. my point is mediocrity is nothing to cheer about.

yes pc you're right. when i go to games we have a good day out. a good few pints in the pub and a good laugh. within 10 minutes of taking our seats at anfield we're half asleep.

most fans know that if we encourage the team it makes no difference. say if babel or kuyt have the ball and the crowd shout for them to attack and take a player on....nothing happens. the ball is passed backwards or sideways.

the players are taught to play a particular way and that's it

with this team the fans cannot alter things on the pitch no matter how much we try

a lot of it is also to do with seating - not the sitting down part itself - but the fact that you can't just go and sit with your mates as you have to go where your ticket takes you ..... most of the singing originates from groups of people who go together but it is difficult to do that now

i wonder if it would be possible for the club to just issue the correct number of tickets for a stand like the kop without a seat number? so that people can just go and sit by their mates rather than having to sit where the ticket tells them to go ...... so long as they don;t issue too many tickets there should be no problems - just mean the stewards would have to do their job and point out where there are spaces

surely a test run on a small section of a couple of hundred seats could be done?