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U try playing alongside and carrying ie Lucas, Hendo , in midfield .... Each game

U wud not be up to it either ..,,,

Except it's Hendo carrying the other two.

Not sure about that

Who's our best mid then lol.

Between Lucas, Hendo and SG, think it is still the latter, but not by much, despite not being great anymore. Hendo has more energy than SG, but not used effectively, a lot of running but no end product. Lucas on a good day, breaks up play a lot, but not consistent and passes are mostly lateral. Gerrard at least can make good passes and moves the game forward, but not enough stamina to be the power house anymore. When he has the stamina and consistency of a Carrick, he uses his passing skills and game vision in a much batter way, this is what I saw when he played for England,

I have always maintained that Gerrard shows more drive in an England shirt than in a Liverpool one. I'm not sure if the reason is tactical but one can clearly see that he is more effective in a more forward role.

drop s.g and replace him with who,he is probably knackered carrying lucas all season.5yrs ago he was playing with Alonso and masherano,now its lucas and Henderson. he cant stop a team like arsenal on his own

I think Gerrard's role should be largely dependent on the opposition and who are their midfielders.

Against "lesser opponents" at home, Gerrard should be allowed to roam freely in more forward positions. technically, there is no need to play Lucas against these opponents who gives you nothing except 5 yard balls that trickle to your feet. WE need more zing and forward thinking players. This is where you chalk up the goals and destroy your opponents, which in turn builds greater confidence

Against teams like Arsenal, Chelsea and the big boys, Gerrard needs to stay further back and protect the backline. He cant venture forward too much and since he is good at playing the one touches etc, such games really depend on the wing backs getting forward and almost playing like wingers to help Suarez, Sturridge and Coutinho, who are likely to stay in central areas. This was what we missed in Johnson and Enrique. if they had played, i think we might have scored at least one.

but all in all, you can see why we need more mobile players around Stevie G. His desire and committment is unquestionable but his legs are. players that cant score goals like Lucas or whose key attribute is to win the ball back and pass it on to other creative players may not be needed in home games where we want to go forward at every opportunity or where the team is likely to park the bus. I would say at least 10 home and away games are likely to run this course.

you seem to be speaking about Gerrards position after we were down while i seem to try and look at his position generally according to different types of opposition. You are also discussing his position based on what transpired at Arsneal rather than look at where he should be playing for the majority of games. i dont largely disagree with your point that he should be playing further forward but look at the context.

Gerrard is still good at going forward but his best asset was bursting into forward positions with purpose and pace but that has waned quite a bit. There was no point pushing Gerrard forward when we could not even get the ball off Arsenal and that was for long periods. And when we did, Lucas didnt know what to do with it meaning Gerrard had to play deeper and organize our play.

I dont disagree that he SHOULD be playing further forward when we were 2-0 down but with Hendo, two ineffective wing backs and Lucas, it meant that he couldnt for large parts of the game.

More than being tactical I think it is because of those playing around/with him. Carrick is better than Leiva for one.