personnally gave up on this forum because its all about who shouts the loudest and talks the most at the expense of any sort of sense
aren't all forums the same? you always get people with strong opinions that don't want to listen to anyone else's view point. But having said that most people that post on this forum do engage in a reasonable debate, just because it gets heated sometimes is not a reason to leave the forum for good. You can help to change the forum by getting involved more, there's no points in complaining about other peoples posts when you yourself have only posted 100 odd times in 2 years.