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hansen is more articulate by a country mile

refused the managers job to get his big BBC fee..I would have thought you hated him as the daily mail hates the old bbc high earners.

Kenny always says yes to liverpool

If there was a vote by all former greats on who they think would be the best club ambassador (nobody can vote for himself), from what I have heard from themselves in interviews, I bet KD will will by a mile.

An early start to games, staying overnight and spending money doesn't make you more experienced than those who played under KD. It is your opinion which is fine, but, in my books it's not worth much. I was also following LFC in those days and have heard loads of interviews where KD is continuously praised by former greats who know KD and understand football much more than you. I've never heard anybody say the things you have been saying without and you only have opinions. Why should I agree with any of your opinions?

Its up to you whether you agree with my opinions Vish and I can see you disagree but you know what?

I will continue to give them its what I believe and witnessed and others did too. Pretty sure if you posted on any of the other big Liverpool forums (koptalk has faitly low volume on this free site pretty sure there are only 20 or 30 of us arguing) IS KENNY DALGLISH A GOOD MANAGER ? OR DID HE DO A GOOD JOB AT LIVERPOOL? then you will find you get a mixed response and many will say excatly what I am saying. As for the internet I am never off it but its limited and its not even a shadow on your own lifes experiences. Through about 85 or so to 1992/3 I watched every Liverpool game home and away no internet link will better than. That does not make me any better before you throw that one accross but its an opinion and not an opinion without foundation. You could argue that given I slogged accross the country paying the wages of these players I have more right to an opinion more than them and I am the customer and they were the provider. Another matter none of Kenny's ex players are going to slag him off in public in fact that rarely happens in football. But one fact no one can argue he took over the best side in british football when he left they were champions and in a downward trajectory and within a year or two mid table and we have never recovered. Thats a fact and we can,t blame all this on souness who inherited a team in freefall not disimilar to the position rodgers took over. That pattern emerges also at Blackburn, Celtic and Newcastle.

As you say, when he left we were still champions same with Blackburn, for me this means that he was already overachieving which became obvious after he left (or those managers who replaced him were not as good). I saw a team doing much better when he replaced Hodgson more recently. Also, I am sure you have watched games much more than me and you would have seen more than me to base an opinion on, however, this is what they are, opinions and I would trust those who worked with KD more than you, no offence. Last but not least, why the hell would former players and staff not talk about what they think, now if they didn't say anything you might have been right, but, why for God's sake would anybody lie by saying how great he was, including Beardsley who had some issues with him?

Everything on this forum Vish is opinions

Its not an exam you know

Exactly, and yours is irrational according to me as you don't have much to back it up. Facts are KD is one of our greatest managers with one of the highest trophies per season, most if not all of our great players and staff think very highly of him and clubs immediately failing when he LEFT. You can call it inheritance of a great club, lots of money to invest in his Blackburn days, feel good factor when he replaced Hodgson, the main or may be the only one who decided to spend all the money in his second spell, but these are your opinions which are nowhere near to convince me of your unfounded views, so period. Other fact is he is back at LFC and I am very happy about it as most who are close to the club from the different articles written.

I have plenty to back it up Vish it's just you cannot accept it as from a young age you have this image of king kenny and I am spoiling the dream by introducing some unpalatable facts. His managerial career was an almighty failure proven by the fact he is out of management and never likely to return. We're he a top manager as you suggest clubs would be queuing up to employ him.

Yes Stanley, how did you guess? You give yourself way too much importance if you believe your unfounded opinion can crush Vish's dreams. Do you really think he gives a rat's ass about your views towards KK?

You have lost all credibility in my opinion, not only over this discussion, but over the past 6 months or so. Some of your posts have become unpalatable.