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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Originally Posted By: vish LFC
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Shaggy I would have liked to have seen how Dalglish did with the hand that Evans was delt. Other than Rafa Evans was the only other manager to come close to the title. As for Dalglish's titles I could have won that with the club he took over and bob paisley advising. I mean that the club was a machine back then with high quality backroom staff


You keep saying that you would have won the title yourself which is utter nonsense. You keep forgetting that KD built a club from scratch and won the EPL title with it, something no manager has been able to do at LFC since he left. In his half season when he took over, we were the 3rd best team despite being in the second half of the table when Roy was sacked, then in his only full season since he came back he took us to 2 cup finals and we won one beating both Manchester teams, something we hadn't done in years.


Very selective what about the league free fall ? The improvement post Roy was just froth and the feel good factor. Once things settled down it collasped. The cups covered over some very big cracks that were widening by the week. If you think he is such a good manager then why not petition FSG to bring him back? That should give us a laugh


We have lost a year re-building and changing managers every season keeps teams in a constant re-building mode. A great observer as yourself should at least know this, you should give a manager some time before making conclusion unless you are in complete [oops] as we were with Roy, ie, not getting anywhere.

Just check your opinion on KD, according to you he won the trophies in his first spell because anybody could have including you (big joke, have you ever managed a team?), then, he won at Blackburn because he spent a lot on players (Mourinho after leaving Porto has always spent big, does that mean that people saying that he is a great manager don't know what they are saying, except you of course?), he steered LFC out of [oops] after taking over from Roy, but of course, this was only due to the feel good factor, we went to 2 cup finals winning one (not sure what your excuse is here).

Now let's look at the negatives you keep on pointing, you say he didn't win the league with Newcastle, has Newcastle ever won anything and was he given the resources to build a team as at Blackburn, don't think so. You say we were in free fall in the league in the season he was sacked, that's true, but, do you know that we were still in the race for top 4 until the Arsenal home game in March, a game we completely dominated and we should have been 3 up at half time if Suarez had taken his chances but lost over 2 crackers from RVP in the second half (did you go to that match, or you chose not to remember?), after that game, was it not more important to concentrate on the cups or maybe you would have prefered we finished 7th as last year or maybe 6th but were kicked out of the cups? Did we have a squad to compete in the league and cups with Gerrard just returning from injury, Suarez banned for 9 games, Leiva and Adam injured, one for 3/4 of the season and the other for 1/2 the season (we ended up playing with Spearing in the FA cup final if you remember). Was it you or Faz who was unhappy when we were recently kicked off the league cup, I don't remember? He overpaid for players which might be true, but, i wonder what was Comolli's role as director of football if KD had to negotiate to buy players. You are very narrow minded when it comes to KD and ticket prices according to me, to say the least.

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Vish you cant surely think Dalglish second coming was a success ? FSG would have sacked him months before the season ended but had to hold back to save face both theirs and the dignity of the club.

Not only was the team in a similar state to Hodgson in free fall but Dalglish behaviour with the media was getting increasingly odd.

Presumably you would prefer Dalglish in charge instead of Rodgers ?


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Vish you cant surely think Dalglish second coming was a success ? FSG would have sacked him months before the season ended but had to hold back to save face both theirs and the dignity of the club.

Not only was the team in a similar state to Hodgson in free fall but Dalglish behaviour with the media was getting increasingly odd.

Presumably you would prefer Dalglish in charge instead of Rodgers ?



Was not happy when he was replaced then because IMO, you need to give some time to a manager especially when there are new players (the free fall for me was due to not having the squad to compete on both the league and the cup and the number of missed chances (including hitting the post) we had in that season). For the same reason, ie we should give time to a manager, I don't think we should change BR now, unless we are out of the fight for top 4 in Jan and out of the FA cup.

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Well we are where we are.

I dont think there is ever the chance of Dalglish being a manager ever again either LFC or anywhere else for that matter. If he was a candidate he would be talked about when vacancies come up. The fact he never is speaks for itself.

I have never known such transfer funds wasted under one manager in my life. Totally crazy period at LFC where we were the laughing stock.


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Well we are where we are.

I dont think there is ever the chance of Dalglish being a manager ever again either LFC or anywhere else for that matter. If he was a candidate he would be talked about when vacancies come up. The fact he never is speaks for itself.

I have never known such transfer funds wasted under one manager in my life. Totally crazy period at LFC where we were the laughing stock.


I agree with your last sentence, but, enlighten me when it comes to the role of a director of football if it is not to negotiate to buy and sell players. I have heard Comolli in an interview on French tv Canal+ saying that he was responsible to pay 35m for Caroll and it was a good deal to have Caroll and Suarez from about the same proceeds for the sale of Torres and Babbel.

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I don't know whether it was dalglsh or comoli who signed those players for those high fees. But lets assume its comoli

Did dalglsh just sit there and say nothing ? Did he at least have an influencing role ?

I remember dalglsh with a straight face telling us Carroll they paid minus fifteen million. What mad logic is that ? I appreciate Chelsea overpaid for Torres but there was no pressure on us to do the same.


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
I don't know whether it was dalglsh or comoli who signed those players for those high fees. But lets assume its comoli

Did dalglsh just sit there and say nothing ? Did he at least have an influencing role ?

I remember dalglsh with a straight face telling us Carroll they paid minus fifteen million. What mad logic is that ? I appreciate Chelsea overpaid for Torres but there was no pressure on us to do the same.


I think he chose players but it was up to Comolli to negotiate the fees, otherwise, I don't understand the role of the Director of football. What he said about the minus 15m is probably how Comolli justified the price. I don't agree at all when you say there was no pressure, can you imagine FSG not buying anybody after selling Torres when we were already short of strikers? You would have been running riots in front of Anfield (I would if I was there) as it would have looked like asset stripping a few months after they bought the club. I also remember rumours about buying Llorente (Dalglish wanted to play a forward of 2 strikers, one technical, one physical) who refused to come to LFC. The mistake was to sell Torres 5 mins before the transfer window slammed shut (we were always going to be held to ransom that late as we were desperate), but that was FSG (according to Comolli in that same interview), they have learned when you see how the Suarez saga panned out in the last transfer window.

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Rather there were riots outside anfield than pay £35m for a player worth £15m at best and that's being generous. And since when do we run a club based on what certain odd numpty fans on the kop think ?

How about doing what's right ?

How about planning for the future rather than reacting to every event in front of your nose no wonder the club is in a mess.


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Vish you still have not answered what was dalglsh s role in all this did he just say nothing to do wth me ?

What sort of manager is that ?


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