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Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
vish mate the team was in decline , everyone going the match knew this from about december that season , the cracks were all to see the decline was shocking compared to what it was , he had molby playing centre half , he froze beardsley out for alledgly personal reasons , he had made hysen captain over established liverpool players , look mate just because its kenny dalglish doesnt mean he wasnt to blame he started it the decline and the club has never recovered from then and thats for all of us to see , as for souness who is just as much a liverpool great and icon as dalglish , he failed for trying to move liverpool on but still won the F.A.Cup and took liverpool to the quarter finals of the uefa cup getting beat by a real top genoa team but it wasnt good enough he got sacked , but dalglish who is a great LFC icon started the decline but if you dont want to believe that because its dalglish well its up to you but your wrong mate .


Look Mate, Souness was as much as an icon as Dalglish so when I am talking about their input as managers I am not getting their iconic status in the way. I also followed LFC in those days, yes I was not going to games but was watching most games on TV, albeit not all live as today. I agree with you that the team started to age but I think that, the biggest challenge KD faced in his career then was to replace himself as a player and Ian Rush which he did admirably.

He probably made mistakes in that season he left, but, who doesn't, declines doesn't happen over half a season. Can you say that United is already in decline? Maybe you can say it has started with Moyes, but it means nothing as it can be corrected after one bad season by a good manager. That's the whole point, yes the LFC team then started to age, not all KD signings were top, but Souness was given all the time required to sort it out, which I am sure KD would have done if he had stayed, just as he did it at Blackburn Rovers. Yes, it might have cost money (don't think as much as Blackburn spent as they were very week before they bought Shearer etc), but, KD did it there, practically from scratch.

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And that's the difference, I think. Kenny built a Blackburn team from scratch that finished 4th the year after it was promoted. They were runners up the year after that, and they were title winners the year after that. Souness did some important things to get us into the modern era, but he wasn't the right manager. Kenny won our last title, and when he resigned, the club was still on top of the table and in the FA cup. Kenny certainly had his faults, and his second spell set us back several years, but he's a better manager in every sense of the word.

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I have less of a problem with the first era of kenny dagliish. It's true there were many factors in liverpools decline of which he was just one. But I have a major problem with the second and third coming. He must have known he was incapable of performing the role and I think in part he undermined hodgson in order to promote himself. He wasted millions and set the club back 5 years and took a huge sum of money out of the club for personal gain. Now he s back a third time being paid and I will bet up to no good.

We should have nothing more to do with him it's offensive he is back at the club.


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So you don't like the fact he's back at LFC then Stanley, do you?


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Its an insult to the club and the fans


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I dunno, i'm a fan and to be honest, i don't feel the slightest bit insulted.


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Maybe you need to do some research ?


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I am not so sure, i don't think that even after extensive research, i would feel insulted.


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Look, i'll admit that i don't like the fact he is back, but for completely different reasons. I never liked the idea of ex managers hanging around and working at the club. The only manager i would ever take back at LFC is Rafa, purely because i believe he could win us the title under these owners. I think he would have done a lot better with the funds FSG have made available so far and that he would be able to attract players of a higher calibre.

However, i think saying having KD back is an insult, is going a bit overboard, drama queen style.


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I agree pigeon...


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