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I also seem to remember after January Vish the club and team being in free fall FACT. I also seem to remember some pretty buzzar press conferences from king kenny probably due to the fact he was losing the plot FACT I also remember the worst value for money signings of any club in history FACT. No club even non league clubs will employ dalglsh as manager not even the local pub team FACT
And thanks for the insults it proves you have no answers to my reasoned arguments. Theres nothing better than a legends thread to bring us all closer together.
That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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Everything about football is opinions. Facts are open to interpretation. For example Phil Neal won more trophies than almost all footballers therefore Phil Neal was the best ever footballer. FACT.
But in reality he was a useful but average right back.
What we cant argue is Dalglish took over one of the best teams in the world and left them in freefall. If he is such a good manager as you suggest then why not sack rodgers and appoint dalglish as replacement. We would win the league for sure. Well if you can describe leaving a club 3 times league winners to your successor, as being in a state of “freefall”, apart from being amazing, its pretty obvious we’ll never agree about it Stanley. In anycase we’ve long ago reached the point where we’re both repeating ourselves ad nauseam, and its pretty obvious we’ll never reconcile our respective positions on Dalglish, "and on that note I’m out”!
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the cracks in dalglish's reign started at villa park in the semi final of the F.A.CUP against crystal palace losing 4-3 , when dalglish put two full back as subs instend of the in form goalscorer ronny rosenthal , ok won the league , but the team was clearly aging , and new contracts were need and the team need refreshing , dalglish instead decided to spend money of nick tanner , david speedie and jimmy carter and made hysen club captain over players like rush ,mc mahon ,whelan and barnes which i know never went down to well , then half was through the season 90/91 the cracks opened wide arsenal away dropped a massively in form beardsley and thought 6 at the back yes 6 at the back would get liverpool a result , liverpool got destroyed by anders limpar 3-0 , arsenal went top of the league , then the rot set in the games against everton the 4-4 game when dalglish walked out plus many more that season the team was creaking , players like mc mahon, houghton and were now demanding big contracts as there careers were coming to the end dalglish never dealt with this and how much certain people want to gloss over it he left an aging squad some wanting big pay days , so souness who made mistakes and admits it was too quick was made manager seen ok aging squad , but he seen in the reserves fowler , mc manaman, redknapp who could step in plus but englands best defend mark wright to replace the crap hysen and retired hansen ,dean saunders best striker in the league at the time also rob jones a great great player to replace there greedy players yes souey made mistakes , but it was dalglish who allowed the club to fester and not dealing with issues started trhe decline, plus stan and a few others will remember this dalglish allegedy dropped beardsley because dalglish's wife marina and beardsley's wife didnt get on , but these stories were flying around because things were going very very wrong under dalglish , now dalglish will always be an icon his work with the hillsbrough familes fantastic , his days as a player brilliant, and his team 87 to 90 fantastic best team ever for me , but in the end its was dalglish who started the clubs decline by not dealing with issues in the club .
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In the same vein though, Faz, the responsibility lies with Souness with regards to the aging squad issue. I again say, look at what fergie has left moyes. If moyes makes mistakes in replacing the aging, giggs, rio, and the retired scholes etc, does that make it Fergie's fault? No one would dream of saying it was Fergie who started "the rot" (if one ever emerges for United) for not dealing with those issues before he left, because he simply won titles. Fair enough Kenny hasnt won as many as Fergie has, but he did win the League 3 times before leaving. I dont really think you can argue with that. Souness tried, like you said, but its him that ultimately failed in replacing the aging team with a new successful one. no wrong mate souness tried to deal with the issues that dalglish did not deal with , ok souness couldnt stop the decline even thought it was souness who brought in better training IE twice a day ,better food thing which are normal now things which he had learnt in italy and the older players did nt like it , but souness admits it was too quick but he still won liverpool the F.A.Cup in his first season , yes souness failed but it was dalglish's actions or non actions that started the clubs decline .
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Must have been a lonely place For Kenny,managing,coaching,head chef and chairman at the same time..what a loser.
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Must have been a lonely place For Kenny,managing,coaching,head chef and chairman at the same time..what a loser. well if your club manager which he was thats the job , he got well paid to do .
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So battered Mars bars weren't the healthy option then?
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the cracks in dalglish's reign started at villa park in the semi final of the F.A.CUP against crystal palace losing 4-3 , when dalglish put two full back as subs instend of the in form goalscorer ronny rosenthal , ok won the league , but the team was clearly aging , and new contracts were need and the team need refreshing , dalglish instead decided to spend money of nick tanner , david speedie and jimmy carter and made hysen club captain over players like rush ,mc mahon ,whelan and barnes which i know never went down to well , then half was through the season 90/91 the cracks opened wide arsenal away dropped a massively in form beardsley and thought 6 at the back yes 6 at the back would get liverpool a result , liverpool got destroyed by anders limpar 3-0 , arsenal went top of the league , then the rot set in the games against everton the 4-4 game when dalglisnh walked out plus many more that season the team was creaking , players like mc mahon, houghton and were now demanding big contracts as there careers were coming to the end dalglish never dealt with this and how much certain people want to gloss over it he left an aging squad some wanting big pay days , so souness who made mistakes and admits it was too quick was made manager seen ok aging squad , but he seen in the reserves fowler , mc manaman, redknapp who could step in plus but englands best defend mark wright to replace the crap hysen and retired hansen ,dean saunders best striker in the league at the time also rob jones a great great player to replace there greedy players yes souey made mistakes , but it was dalglish who allowed the club to fester and not dealing with issues started trhe decline, plus stan and a few others will remember this dalglish allegedy dropped beardsley because dalglish's wife marina and beardsley's wife didnt get on , but these stories were flying around because things were going very very wrong under dalglish , now dalglish will always be an icon his work with the hillsbrough familes fantastic , his days as a player brilliant, and his team 87 to 90 fantastic best team ever for me , but in the end its was dalglish who started the clubs decline by not dealing with issues in the club . I would agree with that clearly a man who knows the club
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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Well as i'm clearly not qualified to comment in this thread anymore,i'll leave you to it.
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So battered Mars bars weren't the healthy option then? i dont know are they ?
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