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Originally Posted By: Hercules/AF 58
Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
I know blackburn fans don't thank dalglish they thank jack walker nor dalglish.

So when Dalglish won 4 league titles, ‘yerra sure twasn’t himself that was in it at-all at-all', it was someone else that won them, and anytime he lost ’Oh begobs an’ twas himself that was in it allright’... and no one else! Ha, ha thats really funny. You know Faz, yourself and ’tother would seem to be suffering from a chronic case of....

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I met a man who wasn’t there
He wasn’t there again today
I wish, I wish he’d go away..."


Was you on this earth in 1986 to 1991 or are you going off google and the legend crap ?


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Originally Posted By: lumba
We've had multiple threads on here discussing the fall of the Anfield Empire that the same people who hold this bitterness towards Kenny agreed that as a club we stood still and never capitalised on our success yet still attribute the man with sole responsibility. Ridiculous.


I never said that not ever


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I know that Stan but you wouldn't think so reading through this thread.


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Originally Posted By: lumba
I know that Stan but you wouldn't think so reading through this thread.


If this helps here's my apportionment of blame

Dalglsh twenty per cent
Liverpool board 1980 to 1995 eighty per cent


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I think your time is better spent convincing people on the reason we're going nowhere now than wasting you energy on Kenny bashing.


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Originally Posted By: Hercules/AF 58
Originally Posted By: fazakerley red 1
I know blackburn fans don't thank dalglish they thank jack walker nor dalglish.

So when Dalglish won 4 league titles, ‘yerra sure twasn’t himself that was in it at-all at-all', it was someone else that won them, and anytime he lost ’Oh begobs an’ twas himself that was in it allright’... and no one else! Ha, ha thats really funny. You know Faz, yourself and ’tother would seem to be suffering from a chronic case of....

......Antigonish
"Yesterday upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn’t there
He wasn’t there again today
I wish, I wish he’d go away..."


Was you on this earth in 1986 to 1991 or are you going off google and the legend crap ?

Stanley, it gives me no pleasure to be fighting it out here with yourself or Faz about the merits or demerits of Kenny Dalglish, but yes I’d like to think I was on this earth in those years, though some might argue otherwise! And I only consult Google for spellings and verification of quotes and things that spring into the ever increasing fog in my poor old brain!
But look Stanley, you can’t say on one hand that Dalglish winning something, is down to someone else, while Dalglish losing something is down to himself!
And yet that proposition is at the heart of your contention.
All managers have good seasons, relatively bad seasons, good signings, relatively bad signings, players they should have moved on, players they shouldn’t have moved on, etc, etc, etc. It’s a complicated and difficult job. And on top of that everybody, qualified and unqualified has differing opinions as to what they should or should not have done.
In the end all we can really judge a manager’s career on is his results over the duration of his managerial career, and on that basis Dalglish holds a pretty exalted position.
You have not been able to produce any conclusive evidence to support your contention that Dalglish started the decline of LFC. On the contrary he gave us our last three league titles and handed over a title winning team to his successor. If you look at what transpired under his successor’s term as manager, you'll find the origins of our decline. The facts can’t be contorted by personal bias and irrational hatred, they speak for themselves.

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Originally Posted By: lumba
I think your time is better spent convincing people on the reason we're going nowhere now than wasting you energy on Kenny bashing.


The reasons are connected, our present plight is linked to the past. In my view getting us out of this we need a new investor to fund the ground which will mean new owners. When I say ground I mean new ground not two new stands at anfield as per the cheapskate FSG option. As for dalglsh he has not earned the right to carry on sucking more money from us. Bobby charlton his equivalent at man utd has done nothing but good for that club. We can't say that about dalglsh the club should have nothing to do with him. If I see him (and i bump into him now and again) I will tell him to his face.


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Originally Posted By: lumba
I think your time is better spent convincing people on the reason we're going nowhere now than wasting you energy on Kenny bashing.


The reasons are connected, our present plight is linked to the past. In my view getting us out of this we need a new investor to fund the ground which will mean new owners. When I say ground I mean new ground not two new stands at anfield as per the cheapskate FSG option. As for dalglsh he has not earned the right to carry on sucking more money from us. Bobby charlton his equivalent at man utd has done nothing but good for that club. We can't say that about dalglsh the club should have nothing to do with him. If I see him (and i bump into him now and again) I will tell him to his face.
Charlton has only been a player though Stan,hardly a good comparison in fairness.


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Words of Henry

“As a player and a manager, Kenny established his position as a football great. But that is only half the story. His compassion and leadership in the immediate aftermath of Hillsborough brought great solace to the families of the 96.

“His support of the campaign for justice since 1989 has been unfailing and inspirational and has given him a status that goes far beyond that of a mere sporting figure.

"However, the return of Kenny Dalglish is not about the past. We are building for the future.

“From the dressing room to the boardroom, we are creating a structure that will take Liverpool back to the top. It is not an easy task.

"Kenny brings the sort of intelligence, experience and knowledge that will help us reach our goals.

“Tom (Werner), Ian (Ayre), Brendan (Rodgers) and I along with every single Liverpool supporter, staff member and player want to welcome back Kenny with the same warmth and depth of feeling that he has shown for his club over these decades.”


A world footballing and Club Legend we are lucky to have with us

Shocked people can moan about a few bad signings in contrast to everything he did for us. Most lfc fans welcome the king back

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Originally Posted By: EMP
Words of Henry

“As a player and a manager, Kenny established his position as a football great. But that is only half the story. His compassion and leadership in the immediate aftermath of Hillsborough brought great solace to the families of the 96.

“His support of the campaign for justice since 1989 has been unfailing and inspirational and has given him a status that goes far beyond that of a mere sporting figure.

"However, the return of Kenny Dalglish is not about the past. We are building for the future.

“From the dressing room to the boardroom, we are creating a structure that will take Liverpool back to the top. It is not an easy task.

"Kenny brings the sort of intelligence, experience and knowledge that will help us reach our goals.

“Tom (Werner), Ian (Ayre), Brendan (Rodgers) and I along with every single Liverpool supporter, staff member and player want to welcome back Kenny with the same warmth and depth of feeling that he has shown for his club over these decades.”


A world footballing and Club Legend we are lucky to have with us

Shocked people can moan about a few bad signings in contrast to everything he did for us. Most lfc fans welcome the king back


I'd like to hear them elaborate on the above. He has very limited experience as a football Director and I don't see how his intelligence or experience can benefit us. Does anyone have any examples/suggestions of what he can offer us as a non-executive Director of LFC?

By the way, I'm not saying any of this with sarcasm, malice or cynicism......I'm genuinely intrigued as to what he can offer and what his role is.

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