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You don't have to write for a newspaper to have an opinion Vish and in any case I have read plenty of articles critical of dalglsh nor do I read ,many articles proposing he go back into football management. Some of the wisest opinions I know Vish are from fans.
I do understand your difficulties. Despite all this I do admire your following the club as I do everyone but not everything that happens in this world Vish is written down nor do celebrities have the franchise on what is correct or not.
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That's true but the match going fans don't have that franchise either, so when dealing with such subjective matter, experience has shown that it's wiser to trust the opinion of those actually involved...
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stewart,saunders,walters,clough, dicks..dicks the lot of em yes agreed apart from mark walters , but stewart , saunders and clough were all the best players around at the time , paul stewart had just broke into the england team and won spurs the f.a.cup , saunders best striker in the country as for clough everyone wanted him to sign for liverpool . You could say the same for Carroll and Downing but you won't because it doesn't suit your distortion of the FACTS carroll and downing were not the best to buy , and i dont think everyone wanted them . And neither were Stewart, Walters and Clough best buys but you overlook that bit and focus on Carroll and Downing because it suits your distortion of the facts, all a bit selective don't you think?
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Use your own judgement and make your own mind up based on what you see.
Basing an opinion on only on what some celebrity says is sad and disconnected.
If you ever want to understand dalglish look what he did to Newcastle he destroyed them within 12 months gave a lucrative player contract to his son and gave two contracts to ageing mates Barnes and rush. He is absolutely hated on Tyneside.
If you doubt all that then you can't be unaware of the shambles as his short reign unfolded in 2011 / 2. Apart from the team being in free fall in the league the behaviour of the manager and the squad indiscipline and the silly tea shirt thing shamed the club. Twice FSG had to intervene and the sponsor got involved. That's what happens when you appoint an amateur into a top football role.
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And neither were Stewart, Walters and Clough best buys but you overlook that bit and focus on Carroll and Downing because it suits your distortion of the facts, all a bit selective don't you think? think they were at the time .
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Ok Hercules what's your reason for our decline following our great period in the 1980's ? And do you think dalglsh did a good job in his last appointment as Liverpool manager ? If so why and how ? The most immediate reason for the decline occured after Dalglish leftand not before. Souness took over and did a hatchet job on the team and also bought badly in the main. What was needed was the gradual replacement of the older players and good man management as everyone was down after the disaster and also Dalglish needing to leave. However Souness was unable to do either of those things, but like a total amateur tried to do everything at once and the rest is history. Of course there were other issues of poor ownership and management at board level before, during and after all this happened which contributed to our decline. But to try and leave it all at Dalglish's door is off the wall Stanley. The most important contribution to our decline was that of Souness, and the record shows it to be so.
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The team was falling apart before dalgllish left the club Hercules I don't believe if you saw the team in those days you did not see that. Souness was not a success either but by the time he took over the damage was done. All through dalglsh career the same pattern emerges.
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The team was falling apart before dalgllish left the club Hercules I don't believe if you saw the team in those days you did not see that. Souness was not a success either but by the time he took over the damage was done. All through dalglsh career the same pattern emerges. Stanley thats just [oops], that team won the league and had great players, would you say in all honesty if Fergie had taken over instead of Souness the calamiy that followed would have happened?
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No if fergie had taken over he would have rebuilt the side after dalglsh but it might have taken a few years, Not saying souness was a success but he did do some good work he had a major job on his hands just as Rodgers did and Rodgers is still trying to correct dalglsh s mess even today.
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No no, Rodgers is trying to clean up and sort out the mess from the past 30 years...a mess which all involved myself and you, allowed to develop.
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