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I bet I have read more books and fanzines than you Vish on LFC I have a loft and cupboard and garage full of them right back to 1972". Including about 60 anfield reviews from shankly s era. The difference is I interpret them based on experience I don't think any of them are fact just an opinion at a point in time as are all written works. This does not mean I am better than anyone but my views are based on experiences first and the written word as a supplement.
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stewart,saunders,walters,clough, dicks..dicks the lot of em yes agreed apart from mark walters , but stewart , saunders and clough were all the best players around at the time , paul stewart had just broke into the england team and won spurs the f.a.cup , saunders best striker in the country as for clough everyone wanted him to sign for liverpool . You could say the same for Carroll and Downing but you won't because it doesn't suit your distortion of the FACTS carroll and downing were not the best to buy , and i dont think everyone wanted them .
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I bet I have read more books and fanzines than you Vish on LFC I have a loft and cupboard and garage full of them right back to 1972". Including about 60 anfield reviews from shankly s era. The difference is I interpret them based on experience I don't think any of them are fact just an opinion at a point in time as are all written works. This does not mean I am better than anyone but my views are based on experiences first and the written word as a supplement. But I don't value your opinions because you are a nobody IMO compared to LFC greats who actually know and have worked with KD. Why is it so hard to understand this? Your opinion doesn't mean much to me as I am sure they are not better, else you wouldn't be posting and arguing here, you would be working for some media. Why don't you write an article on KD based on your so called experience and try to get it published by Liverpool echo for example, only then you will have some credibility.
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Vish you dont need to be a jounalist or an ex player to have an opinion on football.
Thousands of fans watch their team and discuss in the pubs etc and have done for decades. Quite often as at Istanbul or St Eitiene, Auxere the fans actually influence the result.
They are not nobodies as you describe them.
In my opinion the supporters are those who normally know more than the so called celebrity experts whom you take every word they utter as fact.
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Vish you dont need to be a jounalist or an ex player to have an opinion on football.
Thousands of fans watch their team and discuss in the pubs etc and have done for decades. Quite often as at Istanbul or St Eitiene, Auxere the fans actually influence the result.
They are not nobodies as you describe them.
In my opinion the supporters are those who normally know more than the so called celebrity experts whom you take every word they utter as fact. Actually no, the experts have confirmed what I think, what I have seen (granted on tv) and actual facts. By the way, not all supporters support your views, actually, from the posts on this thread only a minority do. I don't agree with your opinions because for me they are unfounded and illogical. I honestly don't think you know more than others, I think you know less and it's my opinion. If you think you know more than the experts try to publish an article on your views on KD, we'll see what most people think and good luck with that.
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Vish I think if you read Faz,s posts on this thread also a nobody (your words) who like me who went to every game back then I think you will find he agrees entirely.
Most Liverpool supporters I know and here I am talking about real people not strangers on forums agree both Dalglish eras were a disaster. I do undestand your logistics problem but I pity you are not more respectful of people who have put a lot of effort in. Without us nobodys from the 1960,s Liverpol would not have had the world wide following it has today. 1963 was my first game and I dont mean reading about it either I mean being on the kop as a 7 year old with 26,000 fans.
A nobody ?
In your eyes yes.
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Vish I think if you read Faz,s posts on this thread also a nobody (your words) who like me who went to every game back then I think you will find he agrees entirely.
Most Liverpool supporters I know and here I am talking about real people not strangers on forums agree both Dalglish eras were a disaster. I do undestand your logistics problem but I pity you are not more respectful of people who have put a lot of effort in. Without us nobodys from the 1960,s Liverpol would not have had the world wide following it has today. 1963 was my first game and I dont mean reading about it either I mean being on the kop as a 7 year old with 26,000 fans.
A nobody ?
In your eyes yes.
I said it before but I suppose you can't read post. You are a nobody when it comes to football expertise compared to those who have been in the game, and I mean it, not very different to me. Now if you think I need to take your opinions at heart because you have been going to games since 1963, you can forget it, you don't have any credibility as a football expert, but, you are (were by your own words) a great fan.
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Almost everyone who witnessed that era agrees with me either totally or in part Vish. Everyone.
I agree some say should not be hard on him but no one who witnessed that says there is no foundation except Emp.
That says it all. Funniest comment on this thread...an entirity of 1 or 2 people agree with him and the other 40 disagree...
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I have an opinion Vish and am entitled to it I don't accept that celebrities know better than ordinary fans some of the best opinions on the game are from ordinary fans. And you don't watch the game at anfield for 49 years and learn nothing. I could take offence at your jibe of being a nobody but I won't. But we're it not for me and thousands like me the club would not be what it is today and would never have come to your attention.
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I have an opinion Vish and am entitled to it I don't accept that celebrities know better than ordinary fans some of the best opinions on the game are from ordinary fans. And you don't watch the game at anfield for 49 years and learn nothing. I could take offence at your jibe of being a nobody but I won't. But we're it not for me and thousands like me the club would not be what it is today and would never have come to your attention. Again it's your opinion and I don't agree with it. If your opinions were so great, you wouldn't be just posting here. Why don't you give it a try, if you think you know so much better than the so called experts, by sending your opinions about KD to Liverpool Echo or the likes, we'll see what comes out of it. I bet it would be as the posters here, ie, most saying you don't know what you are talking about.
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