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Also, Podolski did make his senior debut at 18, but for Koln, not Germany, I think...with a whole 2 appearances and 0 goals to his name in the entire 2003 season.

Whilst Benzema did break through and make an impact at Lyon at a young age, he had been playing and training with the senior team for 3 years prior to that mpact. In 2003 he was a fully pledged member of the 1st team, yet made only 4 appearances. In 2004, he had 6 appearences.

He only became a regular in 2006-2007. Luis Alberto hasn't exactly been playing first team football at LFC foor that long.

C.Ronaldo was a first team regular at Man Utd at 18.
Ronado 9 was hitting 20 goals per season at 17 in Brazil and had 4 caps when he was 18.
Giggs was a first team regulat at 18.
Beckham made his debut at 16 and was blooded in to the team over a 3 year period and also went out on loan. First team regular at 20.

I couldn't be bothered to carry on, but there's a big theme running across that list of players, all regulars by the time they are 20, all playing for the best teams in the world.

Aspas never played top flight football until he was 25 and has never won a cap for his country.

Alberto made his debut at 18 and has never been a first team regular in top flight football, he will be 21 in a week.

Stop kidding yourself that Rodgers has bought 2 world beaters at a bargain price. Aspas will end up like Borini and Alberto will be joining Pacheco and Suso.

This whole thread is about supporting FSG who are buying low grade cheap players.

We are expected to swallow these will become world class players in a few years time based on some selective third party evidence and not the evidence of our own eyes and our own experience.

The same game was being played last season with boriini whom we were told was going to a prolific world beater if only we were patient.

We know we're that ended up.

This s about defending FSGs transfer policy by FSG,s chief apologist

Podolski made his first appearance for Germany in 2004 when he was 20, Benzema won player of the season in France scoring 30 when he was 21 in 2008. Maybe Alberto will be as great a player, but, nothing compares to the players you mentioned yourself, he hasn't been playing first team football that long anywhere, but he has been a top B / reserve player. FSG took a chance with both Aspas and Alberto, I think Alberto could make it may be, but not Aspas.

The usual bu11sh1t from you, putting words in my mouth. I never said Borini would be a world beater. I said he was a decent player who will only get better and that he has good positioning. I suppose you know better than the italian national squad head coaches, managers etc, you know better than Roma scouts and coaches and of course better than me.

and stop calling me FSG's chief apologist just because I feel differently to you. You don't see me calling you a whiney little b1tch, do you? No, I wouldn't do that because you are entitled to your opinion.

However, I will call you a LIAR and a HYPOCRITE, because you claim everyone should be able to express their views on here but then go on insulting them and putting words in their mouth when they do.

Personally i think the responsibility for those signings is with the manager. One area where I still think Rodgers needs to improve. Stop signing rubbish foreign squad players

In fairness to Bren,it's gonna be hard work unearthing a Tiffany while shopping in PoundWorld.

15 million on Allen, 10 on Borini. 15 on Aspas and Alberto. hardly shopping at pound land. He had plenty of money to spend. I've said it before he reminds me of houllier in the way he signs loads of sub standard squad players. Its a waste of money and it blocks the path for the younger players we have with genuine potential such as Sterling, Ibe and Suso. I'd rather any of those 3 play than Aspas

I'm referring more to wages rather than the initial fee Welshy.

Not sure he's being limited by the wage budget though. I just think he likes to have a lot of squad players. He did the same thing at Swansea, bought a load of squad players and barely played a lot of them. In fact Laudrup remarked that there were far too many players at the club when he took over the swans.

Thats my only big criticism of Rodgers at the moment and tbh I hate the idea of buying squad players anyway. Why buy a player who isn't good enough to play? If we do get injuries give a young player a chance instead. To be fair to Rodgers he did go for top signings aswell but couldnt convince them to join, I just think he wants too big a squad