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Just thinking, with another international break in a few weeks it might not be so bad, he could only miss 4 league games and the capital cup game. The league games he'd miss would be:

Southampton (H)
Sunderland (A)
Crystal Palace (H)
Newcastle (A)

Even without Coutinho we should still be able to get 9-10 points from those games, especially with Suarez returning. Obviously Coutinho will be missed, but if he was going to pick up a 6 week injury, this was probably the best time to have done it

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Originally Posted By: Scainer
The point about Allen isn't just about his playing position but rather his asset realisation and that if he is no good he needs to move out before the funds are released for others. He was bought as the Welsh Xavi so obviously someone thought he could play in a more advanced role.
This Eriksson talk is just like the rubbish last year with Dempsey. Now that Coutinho is out he would have been an option but had he not got injured, he may not have fit in. He isn't our player so why don't we just move on and get over the what ifs.
The world hasn't ended and we still can field a full team. I'm sure Moses, Sturridge and Suarez can create and score goals. Maybe Gerrard moves more offensively.


Very mich argee Scairne!

Gerrard is more than adept at playing as a creative/attacking mid - if Henderson and Lucas cannot work as a Defensive Midfield pair then one/both should be sold as they're actually well suited for the role.

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I would say either play Alberto in for phil, OR play Gerrard in the hole and Henderson next to Lucas with Sterling or Ibe out wide. When Suarez comes back, we can play him in the hole and go back to our regular formation.

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Is Allen fit?

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Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet
I think it's too early to write off Joe Allen too... let's see what he can do with full fitness. Some of you are a bit twitchy with the knives already...


Even if he was fit Henderson is better in that no.10 role anyway. All Allen seems to be is the Lucas replacement at the moment. If Allen continues to be average, doesn't show improvement and isn't challenging for a place in the team, then he should be replaced by Will Hughes in a year or 2. No point in keeping a £15m signing with those wages to be at best a very good squad player.

You could say I'm being harsh but I think its just being realistic. Don't get me wrong I want Allen to succeed, but the problem is that I don't see him improving as a player, despite his relative youth. With Henderson you can clearly see him improving. Hopefully he just needs a bit of time, like Lucas and Hnederson did.

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I don't think Henderson's good enough in the 'hole', doesn't show enough creativity or directness to score/create enough goals.
Gerrard moving forward makes much more sense and put LS on the right, or vice versa.
I guess Alberto for the Southampton game... Still don't think Sterling's that effective. Shouldn't start yet.

Thankfully we didn't buy Eriksen early in the summer as it's too similar to Coutinho...

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Originally Posted By: redrocket11
Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet
I think it's too early to write off Joe Allen too... let's see what he can do with full fitness. Some of you are a bit twitchy with the knives already...


Even if he was fit Henderson is better in that no.10 role anyway. All Allen seems to be is the Lucas replacement at the moment. If Allen continues to be average, doesn't show improvement and isn't challenging for a place in the team, then he should be replaced by Will Hughes in a year or 2. No point in keeping a £15m signing with those wages to be at best a very good squad player.

You could say I'm being harsh but I think its just being realistic. Don't get me wrong I want Allen to succeed, but the problem is that I don't see him improving as a player, despite his relative youth. With Henderson you can clearly see him improving. Hopefully he just needs a bit of time, like Lucas and Hnederson did.


its amazing how far down the order Allen has fallen, I cant really see him playing much this season.
shame really because he did look like a good player when he first joined.

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Originally Posted By: OmegaRed
I don't think Henderson's good enough in the 'hole', doesn't show enough creativity or directness to score/create enough goals.
Gerrard moving forward makes much more sense and put LS on the right, or vice versa.
I guess Alberto for the Southampton game... Still don't think Sterling's that effective. Shouldn't start yet.

Thankfully we didn't buy Eriksen early in the summer as it's too similar to Coutinho...


Henderson is good enough. He's certainly better than Allen anyway and that was my point.

And what the hell are you talking about? Henderson's directness to score goals is one of his best attributes. Moving Gerrard forward doesn't make any sense either. His days 'in the hole' are over. He simply doesn't have to energy/fitness/youth to press the ball like Henderson does. Breaking up his midfield partnership with Lucas would only disrupt the team at this point.

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Originally Posted By: sixtiesred
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Terrible news but his form was not as good ths season and he has been more marked.

Moses and Suarez to come in. Injuries are part of football unfortunately


time for our other super star to step up come on Alberto!!


I said it last season, we need to see how Coutinho performs when everybody has analysed his game and the put up plans against him. Except for the United game, I still think he was among our better performers, but he is very light weight. Never thought he would miss six weeks from that fall

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I still dont think we need backup at DM but that we rather need a top top CAM.


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