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Many variables to modern day LFC few that leave any definitive positives without an equal negative. I also don't agree with Stan in regard strikers. We have 2 and one isn't even playing and we are still 3 in 3.

We are short of depth - Mourhino's small squad reference which I believe to be 22 is twice the depth we have. Saying that if you look at the first 11-13 players they are of far better ability than the same only a year or so ago and the club is in far better financial shape because of the work Rogers has done. I am giving FSG very little credit for where we are. He has almost entirely funded this team from his own tireless endeavor in the transfer market both in and out.

I think there are very few managers if any who would have done the work he has to improve with what he was given. I'd also rather be obviously short of depth and susceptible to injury/suspension with a far higher standard of starting 11 than have a 22 man squad of mediocrity. The latter was definitely true under Kenny.

A decent 11 can be added to and built on- the other needs dissembling and rebuilding as he has obviously done over two painful seasons.

The biggest downside for me of not adding a couple more is that you are at risk from your really talented people wanting to go if you fail. That can be argued as shortsightedness and a silly way to try and progress. Losing 3 or more in the summer if we fail yet again hinders the move forward without doubt.

The two defenders were massive buys if they are the quality we hope. If we are not conceding we are not losing games. We have the chance here with the young quality also coming up to have the best defence in the league. With all the future now playing methods, Rogers appears to be trying to adopt; mixed with a team built from the back will go a long way in giving us a great platform.

There's no doubt it's a gamble with doing just enough, but that appears the way the club has been going for some time. I'd prefer it was different but it isn't.

If we are right in the mix come December the window will present an opportunity to cement it. I bet Rogers already has a few names just in case.

Reservedly optimistic going into the Swansea game.

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Originally Posted By: Top4
We are short of depth - Mourhino's small squad reference which I believe to be 22 is twice the depth we have.


Mostly a sensible and fair post, mate!

But I have to disagree a bit regarding squad depth. Chelsea having twice as many backup players as we have isn't really comparable this year, since we aren't playing in CL or EL, which they are.

They have the following squad:

Keepers: Cech, Schwarzer

Defenders: Ivanovic, Terry, Cole, Cahill, Azpilicueta, Luiz, Bertrand, Kalas, Aké

Midfielders: Oscar, Lampard, Hazard, Willian, Ramirez, De Bruyne, Schürrle, van Ginkel, Mata, Mikel, Mc Eachran, Essien

Forwards: Torres, Ba, Eto'o


We have:

Keepers: Mignolet, Jones

Defenders: Johnson, Enrique, Touré, Agger, Skrtel, Cissokho, Kelly, Wisdom, Ilori, Sakho

Midfielders: Alberto, Gerrard, Coutinho, Henderson, Lucas, Allen, Sterling, Ibe, Moses

Forwards: Suarez, Aspas, Sturridge


For us that is 24 players who will most probably feature on the team sheet quite occasionally.

Compared to Chelsea (counting the whole squad - not just the starting XI) we are clearly lacking in the midfield area, both in numbers and in quality. The 2 starting XI's are not that different in quality though - but put their "2:nd team" against ours, and we're screwed!

In the goalkeeping department I think we are one back up keeper short - but not a one on some £ 60k a week as Given.

Defenders: We are at least as good as Chelsea here I think. A few of their players are definitely ageing (as in Terry and Cole) and are not as good as they used to be a few years ago.

Forwards: I think we are far better off here than them. They (at the moment) simply don't have any forward player of the same stature as Suarez and Sturridge. Their back up striker Eto'o is probably a stronger card than our Aspas though. But the former is on his way down, whereas the latter (hopefully) is on his way up!

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We made some good signings, however I am not quiet sure if this is the 'intent' as per previously noted by the club. We do not have much depth going forwards now that we sold or loaned out many of our players. We really should have invested in a top class attacking player, so I am disappointed at that aspect, however our defense is looking strong.


Totally agree we are crying out for a quality striker. Yes we have sturrage and Suarez but most top clubs have four strikers and good ones too. We also need a replacement long term for Gerrard who no longer has the legs.


I disagree with this, Chelsea and United have two decent strikers like us.

Yes we need another striker but to say most have four decent strikers is incorrect, unless you are classing Welcrap as decent but even then who would be their 4th.......

As for Gerrard what's wrong with Henderson being his long term replacements or Allen, both could possibly step up to becomea great.

Sturridge and Suarez can easily score 40-50 goals between them, then with the midfielders chipping in with a few things are looking a lot better than last season, our defence is looking a lot better.

I am also glad we wasn't held to ransom by players, like Shay Given for instance, he wants 60k a week to keep a bench warm, as if we are going ot do that.

Our best signing this summer was keeping Suarez.


You may be right about Chelsea, but United have Rooney, RVP, Hernandez, and Welbeck. Welbeck is their equivalent to Borini, and he's a lot better than ours. They have one of the best striker corps in football.

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But their midfield is cráp! laugh

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looks like mr suarez is staying , moses a very good signing , interesting defensive signings , just now see how things play out , just enjoy its now its a good couple of days , at the moment no need for negativity , ok that could change quickly , but a good start decent transfers could get liverpool closer to the top five hopefully better , but just enjoy it now and see how it plays out .


Post of the day.Excellent.

The rest of you whingers can bog off with your continuing negativity. eek
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