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Originally Posted By: jjmelling/Stato
Thats fine. I think he has failed consistently to get teams to play well in the PL. Chelsea were poor with him in charge, and Spurs have been heavily reliant on one player, and not playing too well as a team. The history, for me, is what I'm grounding my opinion on.


I think he did well before coming to the EPL, yes he had a bad start at Chelsea, but did relatively well last year in a new team, much better than BR for sure.

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I think his record before Chelsea is very good. I'd have been happy with him being hired at Liverpool a season ago. Now, I'm not sure he is as good as he was made out to be. On his managerial record, he is better than BR. But for us, BR seems like the better fit. I think Spurs think they're building a squad to compete this season for more than 4th, but I think 3rd is the best they can achieve, and that relies on one of the big challengers to do badly.

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Originally Posted By: jjmelling/Stato
I think his record before Chelsea is very good. I'd have been happy with him being hired at Liverpool a season ago. Now, I'm not sure he is as good as he was made out to be. On his managerial record, he is better than BR. But for us, BR seems like the better fit. I think Spurs think they're building a squad to compete this season for more than 4th, but I think 3rd is the best they can achieve, and that relies on one of the big challengers to do badly.


And we are supposed to qualify for CL according to what BR said, where do you think we'll finish, honestly, if we do not get a top centre half and a first team winger (as we are right now)?

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Right now. Certain for 6th. Probably be able to manage 5th. Potential to challenge for 4th. As in, top 6, but we can still compete if we get some luck our way. With the 2 signings that people rather head-scratchingly don't believe we will sign (but I do), I think we can definitely achieve 5th, and probably compete for 4th, with the potential to get that 4th spot if some luck goes our way.

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They are overpaying for ?marks. Perhaps some of them will be answered perhaps some wont. With all the money spent how much time will AVB get if things dont go as planned early. Our squad needs depth and FSG need to realize this and get B.R. some backup !!!!!


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Originally Posted By: jjmelling/Stato
Right now. Certain for 6th. Probably be able to manage 5th. Potential to challenge for 4th. As in, top 6, but we can still compete if we get some luck our way. With the 2 signings that people rather head-scratchingly don't believe we will sign (but I do), I think we can definitely achieve 5th, and probably compete for 4th, with the potential to get that 4th spot if some luck goes our way.


But then you feel as well that Spurs will finish above us (you said 3rd in an earlier post if I am not mistaken). Didn't you also say that we'll finish higher than them? I am a bit lost now.

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Certain to finish in the top 6, and probably get 5th. So that is a good chance of 5th! As in, ahead of Spurs, but only a chance to challenge for 4th.

With two signings...

Certain to finish in the top 5, and probably compete for 4th. A strong chance we flirt with achieving 4th, but slightly more likely to miss out. As in, we could finish above Arsenal.

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Why is there this intent to prove people right and wrong?! I think 5th is obtainable with our squad as it is. With signings, I'd be more sure of it, and would believe we can get 4th. That is basically the same as most on here (albeit some think we'll finish a place lower in 6th).

But that is not to say that if we competed for 4th, and finished 6th, I'd want anybody sacked. Competing for CL football is probably the best we can hope for this season. Finishing 5th/6th to me, makes little difference, because I don't think the cups will be under-estimated, so 6th will be another Europa spot.

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5th or 6th is where I think we will be, as of this moment I don't hold out a lot of hope of 4th. If we sign two high quality players in the next few days we have a chance, will we get those players is the question.

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Originally Posted By: jjmelling/Stato
They're funding most of it through the Bale sale, and ridding the club of most of its core to do so. It is risky business. I'd much rather be Liverpool than Spurs right now... But I admit I'll likely stand alone in seeing it that way.


Maybe marko might agree with you but no one else I can think of either on koptalk or among people I know. Still if you two are right we will all be pleased.

Spurs are definitely better placed than Liverpool in my opinion in terms of talent and squad strength. I am pretty sure if Gerard was not at the end of his career he would be off with the lack of ambition and investment


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